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#1 User is offline   gwnn 

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Posted 2010-January-19, 19:55

Scoring: IMP


Hello, this is the thirtieth and last thread in the big poll. Please provide the most probable result after East opens 1 and you either

a) pass
b) double
c) bid 2.

Please do a cross imp result like:

a-b:
a-c:
b-c:

(a-c means the imps a wins over c)

Thanks :) In case you haven't done so already, try to do the other 29 hands also :)

If you made it this far, congratulations and thank you!!

One last thing maybe could you add up all your imps? :)

a-b total:
a-c total:
b-c total:

hopefully in a few weeks we will objectively know what the best call with

A7, AT432, QT64, Q5 is over 1S, unfavorable, imps.

Scoring: IMPs

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Posted 2010-January-20, 06:16

After a pass EW will play in 3C making (if west is pessimistic) or 3NT (if west is sane) down on a heart lead.

After a double it would also be one of these outcomes, but it is hard to say how double will affect east's choices. Too hard to say for me.
and the result can be plotted on a graph.
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Posted 2010-January-20, 17:16

a: 1-P-3(inv)-all pass. Making three, -110.
b: 1-X-XX-1N-2-P-3-all pass. Making three, -110.
c: 1-2-3-P-3-P-3-P-3NT. Heart lead to queen, spade king won by south, ace and a heart. Now declarer hooks the spade jack to take four spades, two hearts, one diamond, and two clubs for nine tricks? Of course it is possible that declarer gets the spades wrong, or that a different opening lead is found. Let's say 50% for -400 and 50% for +50.

a-b = 0 IMPs
a-c = 1.5 IMPs (50% for 290, 50% for -160)
b-c = 1.5 IMPs (as above)
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Posted 2010-January-20, 17:40

awm, on Jan 21 2010, 12:16 AM, said:

b: 1-X-XX-1N-2-P-3-all pass. Making three, -110.

Isn't 3 forcing?

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c: 1-2-3-P-3-P-3-P-3NT. Heart lead to queen, spade king won by south, ace and a heart. Now declarer hooks the spade jack to take four spades, two hearts, one diamond, and two clubs for nine tricks?

Declarer doesn't have four spade tricks.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2010-January-20, 17:56

Let's make this down one in 3NT, since Gnasher is right about the spade suit. This means:

a-b = 0 IMPs
a-c = 4 IMPs
b-c = 4 IMPs

Totals a-b = 46
Totals a-c = 66
Totals b-c = 49

Basically a (PASS) was a huge winner for me, and c (2) was terrible. This matches what Mikeh got.
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Posted 2010-January-20, 18:03

Awesome awm! I hope I can start going through the hands tomorrow. :)
... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
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Posted 2010-January-21, 07:11

my dearest north is raising to 3 making west declarer in 3NT for 2 down.

A: 3 -110
B: X-2-p-2-p-2NT all pass for +100
C: 2-2NT (clubs)-3-p-p-3NT all pass for +200

A-B = -5 IMPs
A -C = -7 IMPs
B-C = -3 IMPs


I am not sure I added them correctly but my numbers say:


A-B -24
A-C 97
B-C 125


2 a big big loser, and double is clearly better than pass, however I suspect I was biased towards punushing 2 at times, and that I made good decisions over the take out double based on knowing the full hand also.


Pass risked having to catch up in the bidding later, double risked some awful club contracts, but somehow they were dodged most of the time, but gained a lot by getting in quickly.

2 was a loser because it acomplished nothing, when we had 5-3 heart fit, we where shouted down by their spade fit anyway. While when we had a bigger one, nobody was stopping us finding it after the double.

3 won several small swings by preempting their bidding though, at MPs it was not nearly as bad, didn't make the count, but maybe even better than pass.
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Posted 2010-January-22, 02:51

A 1 22 3 ap +1 -110
B 1 X XX 1 NT 2 p 3 3 NT - 400 or +50 I had lead a heart to the queen, East plays on clubs and now? Can we really avoid that he ever reach the high spade and untackling enough tricks in time? I would rate this as 70/30 for the defence, so -85.
C 1 2 3 NT -85

AB -25 -1
AC -1
BC 0
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Posted 2010-January-22, 07:13

For a, my bidding would be 1S 2C; 2D 3C all pass

Otherwise, agree with awm

a-b = 0 IMPs
a-c = 4 IMPs
b-c = 4 IMPs
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Posted 2010-January-23, 15:43

I have this always getting to 3NT and always going down. Flat. Inv 3, really?
Please let me know about any questions or interest or bug reports about GIB.
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Posted 2010-January-24, 04:34

Jack playing 2001 BWS on championship setting says:

a 3cw+1 -130
b 2se+1 -140
c 3ntw-1 50

a-b 0
a-c -5
b-c -5
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Posted 2010-January-28, 22:13

I have P and X getting to 3, but 2 getting to 3N-1 by West so:

a-b 0
a-c -4
b-c -4

codo said:

It is a fact that most people here write as if their opinion is a dogmatic fact.

eugene hung said:

My opinion is that this ought to win the award for best self-referential quote of the new year.
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