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#1 User is offline   gwnn 

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Posted 2010-January-19, 19:51

Scoring: IMP


Hello, this is the twenty-ninth thread in the big poll. Please provide the most probable result after East opens 1 and you either

a) pass
b) double
c) bid 2.

Please do a cross imp result like:

a-b:
a-c:
b-c:

(a-c means the imps a wins over c)

Thanks :) Please try to do all 30 hands also :)
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Posted 2010-January-20, 06:11

After a double or 2H, EW will probably play 4S, maybe doubled but likely not. This either makes, goes down 1 or down 2, -1 is most likely.

After pass it is hard to say, I'd expect EW to often play 3S which could make. It is possible that EW buy the contract in 2S after 1S - p - 1NT. It is also possible that NS enter anyway.

Too hard!
and the result can be plotted on a graph.
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Posted 2010-January-20, 11:18

han!!! always start at the beginning
... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
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Posted 2010-January-20, 11:28

It's too hard to predict what will happen on these hands Csaba, only on a few can you say with some certainty.
and the result can be plotted on a graph.
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Posted 2010-January-20, 11:39

I know that, but is 29 really the first hand that you can know anything sure? :)
... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
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Posted 2010-January-20, 17:09

a: 1-P-P-2-2-3-4-P-P-X. This is quite a play problem, and can make on perfect guessing. But I'm not sure why the guessing would be perfect, and -1 seems a likely result. +100.
b: 1-X-2-4-4-P-P-X. Same deal as above. +100.
c: 1-2-P-3-X-4-4-P-P-5. Fated for one down, -100.

a-b = 0 IMPs (0)
a-c = 5 IMPs (200)
b-c = 5 IMPs (200)
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Posted 2010-January-20, 17:58

hanp, on Jan 20 2010, 12:28 PM, said:

It's too hard to predict what will happen on these hands Csaba, only on a few can you say with some certainty.

Isn't that the point of all this? Two competent bridge players could look at the same 30 deal sample and come to different conclusions.
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Posted 2010-January-21, 03:49

Well, I can't come to any conclusion on just one hand. But that was obvious in the original thread also, mikeh was much better at knowing what would happen.
and the result can be plotted on a graph.
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Posted 2010-January-21, 06:50

A: p-p-2-X-2-3-p-p-4-p-p-p
B: This ends up in 4X one way or another
C: 5


A: +620
B: +100
C: -100

A-B = 11 IMPs
A-C = 12 IMPs
B-C = 5 IMPs
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Posted 2010-January-22, 02:41

A 1 p p 2 2 (?) 4 4 pass pass X -1 +100
B 1 X 3 4 4 pass (?) pass 5 5 X -2 +300
C 1 2 ... 5 X -2 +300

AB -200 5
AC -200 5
BC 0
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Posted 2010-January-22, 06:59

a: agree with awm and Codo; 4Sx -1; N/S get +100
b: agree with awm. same result as above
c: 1S (2H) pass (4H)!; all pass; +620 to N/S

a-b = 0 IMPs (---)
a-c = (11) IMPs (-520) to N/S
b-c = (11) IMPs (-520) to N/S
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Posted 2010-January-23, 15:41

a. 1 p 1NT p
2 p 2 p
3 ppp
I'll have them get 1 of the 2 guesses.
-140
b. 1 X 3 4
4 ppp
+50
c. 1 2 3 4
4 p p 5
ppp
-100

It's hard to score after 2 since I think north should clearly push to 5 opposite what I consider an overcall, but perhaps not if it's the partnership style to overcall on this hand.

a-b: -5
a-c: -1
b-c: +4
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Posted 2010-January-24, 04:32

Jack playing 2001 BWS on championship setting says:

a 5hs-1 -100
b 4sex-2 300
c 4hs= 620

a-b -9
a-c -12
b-c -8
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Posted 2010-January-28, 22:02

Well, I'm out in left field but ...

a. 4 +620
b 3 +170
c 4 +620

So

a-b +10
a-c 0
b-c -10

codo said:

It is a fact that most people here write as if their opinion is a dogmatic fact.

eugene hung said:

My opinion is that this ought to win the award for best self-referential quote of the new year.
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