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#1 User is offline   gwnn 

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Posted 2010-January-19, 19:44

Scoring: IMP


Hello, this is the twenty-seventh thread in the big poll. Please provide the most probable result after East opens 1 and you either

a) pass
b) double
c) bid 2.

Please do a cross imp result like:

a-b:
a-c:
b-c:

(a-c means the imps a wins over c)

Thanks :) Please try to do all 30 hands also :)
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Posted 2010-January-20, 12:22

a: 3. and switch, +50.
b: 4x, +300
c: 4x, +300
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Posted 2010-January-20, 12:37

"Scary" hand just won't go away :D

What Helene said, plus:

A: minus 6 to b and c
B: plus 6 to a, push to c
C: plus 6 to a, push to b

For all 30 hands - much too lazy.
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Posted 2010-January-20, 16:47

a: 1-P-2-P-4.
b: 1-X-2-X-4. I don't really see this being doubled.
c: 1-2-2-4-4. Again, I don't see the double.

What exactly happens to 4 depends on the defense. Heck, I would've opened 4 on the east cards. Down two seems pretty normal as there are several chances to switch to a club before it's too late.

a-b = 0 IMPs
a-c = 0 IMPs
b-c = 0 IMPs

Are there really people who open their good seven card suits at the one-level, hear partner raise, and then don't bid game?
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Posted 2010-January-21, 06:22

I think besides Adam others are wrong, on a diamond lead you have 9 tricks in spades since the defence is unable to cash the third club you only lose 1 trick on each suit.


A: forcing NT sequence leads to -140
B: Adam's sequence +50
C: I might fancy a 4 fit bid and reach the 5 level. Also I might do a dreaful A lead followed by a diamond switch. There are many risks lurking here, -200 average


A-B: -5 IMPs
A-C: 1 IMP
B-C: 6 IMPs
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Posted 2010-January-22, 02:14

A 1 2 4 S all pass -1 +50
B 1 X 2 3 4 5 pp 5 X -2 +300
C 1 2 2 2 NT 4 pass pass 5 5 X -2 +300

I really think that people tend to overcompete much in w/r so I cannot see E/W let N/S play 5 heart despite the fact that this has no play at all.

AB -250 - 6
AC -250 -6
BC 0
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Posted 2010-January-22, 06:42

Agree with awm.
4S will be bid on all hands, and no doubles
IMO 5H will not often be bid. And it could get passed by E/W

A push for zero IMPs
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Posted 2010-January-23, 15:35

a. 1 p 2 p
3 ppp
+50
b. 1 X 2 (bad raise) 3
4 p p X
ppp
+300
c. 1 2 2 4
4 p p X
ppp
+300

Maybe east would bid 4 on the first but NS already aren't competing, and if game is on an invite should get you there. The second and third seem really normal, can't believe awm thinks north wouldn't double 4.

a-b: -6
a-c: -6
b-c: 0
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Posted 2010-January-24, 04:29

Jack playing 2001 BWS on championship setting says:

a 3se+1 -170
b 4se-2 100
c 4se-1 50

a-b -7
a-c -6
b-c 2
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Posted 2010-January-28, 21:28

I'm with awm. I get to 4, not doubled on all auctions. N/S just can't expect 5 of a red suit to make or be a paying sacrifice, especially when there is such a good chance to beat 4.

codo said:

It is a fact that most people here write as if their opinion is a dogmatic fact.

eugene hung said:

My opinion is that this ought to win the award for best self-referential quote of the new year.
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