[gwnn]

1♦-p-1♠-p
2♦-2NT!!!

what's this? 2NT originally would have been 55 in ♥+♣.

[MickyB]

Dunno - presume dbl is undiscussed? Guess it might be intended as 4-6, or as some kind of 5-5 unsuitable for action initially - maybe 6-5 with fewer points? Just guessing...

[jdonn]

DNE

[aguahombre]

2NT in this situation is a specialized bid designed to put your, and your partner's, heads on the chopping block after letting the opponents have one round of bidding to figure out they have a possible misfit.

[mike777]

gwnn, on Jan 17 2010, 04:20 PM, said:

1♦-p-1♠-p
2♦-2NT!!!

what's this? 2NT originally would have been 55 in ♥+♣.

BID


again easy now if I just know what the heck my suits are .


C'est la vie

[gwnn]

certainment mr. mike:

AKJTxx
Ax
xxx
xx

Que pensez-vous?

[jdonn]

Why did I pass over 1♠?

[Mbodell]

gwnn, on Jan 17 2010, 01:20 PM, said:

1♦-p-1♠-p
2♦-2NT!!!

what's this? 2NT originally would have been 55 in ♥+♣.

Maybe this shows a decent 2=2=3=6 hands that when you resort just before your second call doesn't need to have two separate heart suits and is actually 2=5=0=6?

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

2NT is still hearts and clubs, ..., lets say 5-4, high tech at work.
It may make sense to play 2H in this seq. as 4 hearts, 5 clubs, and
2NT as 5 hearts , 4 clubs.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[P_Marlowe]

jdonn, on Jan 18 2010, 02:49 AM, said:

Why did I pass over 1♠?

Well, better to ask, why did you pass over 1D.
I could understand a pass over 1S, assuming I had not discussed 2S,
although dont ask me, why I would now make a undiscussed 2NT, but
that is live.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[gwnn]

I know about 4 years ago we discussed with this partner a special structure whereby x was 4-4 1N was 4-5 and some other things but I couldn't remember if 2S was natural or in that crazy structure... Well I actually think we gave up the structure but as we hadn't played for at least 1.5 years I just thought pass would lead to an easier auction. Little did I know...

[the hog]

P_Marlowe, on Jan 18 2010, 04:13 PM, said:

Hi,

2NT is still hearts and clubs, ..., lets say 5-4, high tech at work.
It may make sense to play 2H in this seq. as 4 hearts, 5 clubs, and
2NT as 5 hearts , 4 clubs.

With kind regards
Marlowe

So you are forcing to the 3 level on a 4-5 shape? heiliger Hammelbraten!

[mike777]

gwnn, on Jan 18 2010, 02:16 AM, said:

certainment mr. mike:

AKJTxx
Ax
xxx
xx

Que pensez-vous?

Please let us back up


If 2nt is the common expert BWS bid with your hand ok....


At the very least please let me assume pard(you) is bidding
BWS.

[helene_t]

I would need at least 10 cards in the rounded suits, preferably 11, to force to the 3-level now that I would have offered 2♥ by doubling or 2♥.

Maybe a 4-7 that wouldn't preempt due to the 4-card hearts and too weak for 2♣.

Maybe a 5-6 with really awful hearts and outside the agree range(s) for a 2NT overcall.

Most likely partner is drunk or something.

With your 6-card spades I would pass now. If double gets passed back to me I bid 3♣.

[Fluffy]

Partner has a 1444 strong with no bid avaible on previous round.

[gwnn]

mike777 not sure what you're asking. your partner bid a "retarded" (another French word) 2NT and then you have the spades hand that I gave you.

[hanp]

2NT does not exist. I suspect partner has 4 hearts and 6+ clubs, fairly weak.

This hand also shows why one should bid 2S with the given hand.

[gwnn]

I learned from R/S btw that x is 1444 good hand... not sure how standard that is

[helene_t]

gwnn, on Jan 18 2010, 11:51 AM, said:

I learned from R/S btw that x is 1444 good hand... not sure how standard that is

1444 is too specific IMHO. But some people (including Fred) suggested (in the thread about 2-way doubles) that it might be t/o of spades.

[gwnn]

yes I meant generalized 1444.