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#1 User is offline   gdawg01 

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Posted 2010-January-15, 09:59

Playing Sub-SAYC, you deal and hold :




The bidding goes : Pass - (Pass) - 1C - (Pass)

Your bid? You play inverted minors..

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Posted 2010-January-15, 10:06

3♣.

Didn't know that inverted minors was part of sub-SAYC :lol:
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Posted 2010-January-15, 10:08

heh, the "sub" usually indicates our standard of play :lol:
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Posted 2010-January-15, 10:49

gdawg01, on Jan 15 2010, 10:59 AM, said:

Playing Sub-SAYC, you deal and hold :




The bidding goes : Pass - (Pass) - 1C - (Pass)

Your bid? You play inverted minors..

Thanks!
Girish

While this technically meets my requirements for a suit play inverted minor 2♣ bid, it does not for play in NT so I would just call 3♣.
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Posted 2010-January-15, 10:56

Not 2♣! 3♣ if it's not too strong for you, 1♦ if it is.
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Posted 2010-January-15, 11:17

jdonn, on Jan 15 2010, 09:56 AM, said:

Not 2♣! 3♣ if it's not too strong for you, 1♦ if it is.

Yeh, have always wondered whether most people play 3C as weak, but not broke -- or really weak. But that might be a hijack. In competition, we lower standards for 3C --but otherwise it could be just short of 11 dummy points and this one would fit our 3C.
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Posted 2010-January-15, 11:28

If you don't bid 3♣ with this hand I wonder with wich hand you'd bid it
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Posted 2010-January-15, 11:31

Fluffy, on Jan 15 2010, 12:28 PM, said:

If you don't bid 3♣ with this hand I wonder with wich hand you'd bid it

For some people, an ace less.
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Posted 2010-January-15, 11:32

huh... the same hand with AK on the clubs maybe??

anyway.. I prefer 1♦ (lead directing purposes), even though that makes it easier for opps to find their heart fit.
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Posted 2010-January-15, 12:44

Fluffy, on Jan 15 2010, 12:28 PM, said:

If you don't bid 3♣ with this hand I wonder with wich hand you'd bid it

Maybe with an Ace less?
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Posted 2010-January-15, 20:45

I just don't understand, what is your normal bid when aprtner opens 1♣ and you have nothing but ♣AQJxxx?

If you have no 6-9 HCP raise well, you should then change your system
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Posted 2010-January-15, 20:59

I would wait for 8-10ish rather than 6, if I am playing criss-cross... rarely do I even bother discussing playing it.

if my points are all concentrated in clubs, I will raise to 3C/4C anyway. On the posted hand, 1D looks good. On many/most 8-10s with support, I start with 1NT. Not so much to play it - if it comes back to me my 2nd bid is 3C - but opps are less likely to come back in and find their major over 1C-1NT than over 1C-C raise, it seems.

My 1C-3C is typically 4-7ish - with more 0-3s than 8s or 9s mixed in.
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