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WJ2005 twos ACBL legal in what events?

#1 User is offline   Oren Goren 

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Posted 2010-January-14, 19:19

That's about the limit of the question.

A potential partner says he is aiming at the NABC and wants to play WJ2005.

But, aren't the WJ2005 twos a problem?

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Posted 2010-January-14, 19:48

Yes. Luckily, while they are useful, the 2D/M bids are what I call "bolt-on" MidChart conventions - one can go back to "natural" without doing anything to the rest of the system. For some strange reason that seems to be almost all of the MidChart conventions you see over here - my partnership, for instance, won't even go that far and play, say, "multi 2D, Precision 2H, 2S whatever" or "MaxiRoman 2D, Precision 2H" in MidChart events (even though we'd prefer to), because the damage caused by forgetting is so extreme. And they're effectively "bolt-on".

The big issue, strangely enough, is the Multi 2D required to free 2M for the two-suiters, as that's been regulated to 6+board MidChart games. It's very likely that someone at the NABC will be able to find a MidChart game any day (unless they decide to go into bracketed KOs the limit on MidChart is "no team in your bracket with less than 1500 MPs/player", which can certainly be problematic); finding a MidChart non-pair game every day will be problematic.

Actually, I've checked the Reno schedule; there are a couple of days where if you are not lucky enough to have qualified in the Big Event, there is only a Stratified (GCC) pair game and the KOs.
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Posted 2010-January-14, 19:56

mycroft, on Jan 14 2010, 08:48 PM, said:

Yes.  Luckily, while they are useful, the 2D/M bids are what I call "bolt-on" MidChart conventions - one can go back to "natural" without doing anything to the rest of the system.  For some strange reason that seems to be almost all of the MidChart conventions you see over here - my partnership, for instance, won't even go that far and play, say, "multi 2D, Precision 2H, 2S whatever" or "MaxiRoman 2D, Precision 2H" in MidChart events (even though we'd prefer to), because the damage caused by forgetting is so extreme.  And they're effectively "bolt-on".

The big issue, strangely enough, is the Multi 2D required to free 2M for the two-suiters, as that's been regulated to 6+board MidChart games.  It's very likely that someone at the NABC will be able to find a MidChart game any day (unless they decide to go into bracketed KOs the limit on MidChart is "no team in your bracket with less than 1500 MPs/player", which can certainly be problematic); finding a MidChart non-pair game every day will be problematic.

Actually, I've checked the Reno schedule; there are a couple of days where if you are not lucky enough to have qualified in the Big Event, there is only a Stratified (GCC) pair game and the KOs.

Now THAT is good response.

Thank you very much.


BTW, I dig your second brother, Sigerson (sp?).
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Posted 2010-January-15, 03:18

The 2 opener, showing a weak hand with 5+ hearts and 5+ in any other suit is not legal even at Mid Chart.

The 2 opener, showing a weak hand with 5+ spades and 5+ in a minor is legal at Mid Chart. (Actually only 4+ minor is needed to be legal)

So, if playing a Mid Chart event, you could change 2 to be 5+ hearts and 5+ in a minor.

Remember to take the official defences with you (link).

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  Posted 2010-January-15, 07:26

Good gracious: those are both Level 2 in the EBU, ie legal in novice/holiday bridge. They must be very scared in the ACBL! :)
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Posted 2010-January-15, 11:04

Yep, NIH is alive and well in the ACBL. But we still manage to put on some really good bridge.
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