[Winstonm]

kenberg, on Jan 11 2010, 07:20 PM, said:

Well, the taking of the US embassy in Iran was during the Carter administration. Certainly this was an attack on US assets and technically, although I would not go heavy on this, it was on US soil.
I wouldn't call GBI a right-wing zealot and I certainly would not lay our current problems with jihadists at his feet.

I agree this is not a partisan issue. But to be completely fair keep in mind that the hostage crisis in Iran was in response to a fundamentalist Muslim revolution that deposed the Shah of Iran, whom the U.S. had helped install into power and had supported for years.

Even then there were two sides to the story - and it wasn't simply a bunch of Muslim crazies invading our embassy - it was a response to years of our foreign policy choices.

Btw, that does not make our foreign policy choices wrong - it only means we need to accept responsibility for our choices in order to have a meaningful discussion of how to deal with the enemies we help create.

[Winstonm]

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This marks the fourth time in less than a year that Hakimullah Mehsud has been declared slain, only to re-emerge completely unscathed.

Despite launching 44 attacks in 2009, only a handful of significant leaders were slain, and the vast majority of the dead were civilians.

Another 44 reasons to "hate our freedoms".

[Al_U_Card]

Winstonm, on Jan 14 2010, 06:59 PM, said:

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This marks the fourth time in less than a year that Hakimullah Mehsud has been declared slain, only to re-emerge completely unscathed.

Despite launching 44 attacks in 2009, only a handful of significant leaders were slain, and the vast majority of the dead were civilians.

Another 44 reasons to "hate our freedoms".

Don't forget the 1 trillion reasons for pushing from behind...

[Winstonm]

But, of course, there is no blame to share. "Those guys" should have followed orders.

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NATO explained that US Marines went out to direct an anti-NATO protest in Garmsir and when the “civilians in the crowd disregarded instructions,” the troops opened fire on the crowd. US Lt. Col.  Todd Breasseale shrugged off the civilian casualties, insisting “things like this happen.”

Ironically the civilians at the Wednesday rally, estimated at between 200 and 400 strong by the NATO forces, were protesting against a Tuesday incident, in which NATO forces opened fire on civilians at a Tuesday protest, killing 13 people and wounding several others.

Perhaps they should stop with their silly demands.

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In Kabul, the massacre sparked demonstrations with protesters holding up banners showing photographs of dead children alongside placards demanding "Foreign troops leave Afghanistan" and "Stop killing us".

[Winstonm]

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The United States, as the world knows, will never start a war. We do not want a war. We do not now expect a war. This generation of Americans has already had enough — more than enough — of war and hate and oppression.  JFK 1963

[mike777]

Winstonm, on Jan 27 2010, 10:06 PM, said:

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The United States, as the world knows, will never start a war. We do not want a war. We do not now expect a war. This generation of Americans has already had enough — more than enough — of war and hate and oppression.  JFK 1963

hmmm JFK did not read his history.


We started lots of wars...many.....1776, civil war....Indian wars....Spanish American war, Mexican war...etc etc.......


I have posted often, basically the USA has been in constant war since before 1776, see French Indian war. We invaded Canada several times,,,,,and maybe again.... See all the wars before that between Native Americans...etc.

See how JFK built up our nukes/rockets....etc.....see how large our defense budget was...etc..