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Hand vs. Mini-Roman

#1 User is offline   eyhung 

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Posted 2010-January-04, 16:05

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RHO opens 2 mini-roman (any three-suiter, 11-15 HCP) in 2nd seat at pairs. Partner is expert but you have not discussed a defense, the opponents are neither especially good or bad.

You decide to pass and await developments. LHO bids 2, pass or correct. All pass to you.

1) Do you agree with the original pass? If not, what call would you have made?
2) What call would you make now?
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Posted 2010-January-04, 16:33

I could overcall 4 confident I'd shown diamonds and a major, but this ought to be a slightly better hand than I have.

Pass and then 3 should show and a minor and not much better than this as you could start with a double.

Alternatively if you take the approach that if you meet an artificial bid you haven't discussed then x shows that suit you can do that first.
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Posted 2010-January-05, 06:26

As I played 2D=mini-Roman(any short), opener would have auto-raised 2H with 1xS to get opponents S-fit try up to 3-level. He didn't so my best guess opener has 4s4h1d4c so I try 3D now.
I would have bid 2S immediate, S-fit first priority to look for, and rebid 3D/4D to shape out this 2-suiter.
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Posted 2010-January-05, 11:11

pass seems fair, though 2 or 3 is ok too. now 3 over 2.
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Posted 2010-January-05, 16:27

I suppose it's nice to know in advance that none of the suits are breaking, but it's also a bit frightening. I'm not going to drive to the four level with such poor pips.

I'd have bid 3 over 2. Not having done so, I'd bid 3 on the second round.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2010-January-05, 16:47

Hi,

#1 Pass is fine, if you have no agreement.
#2 3H - should be forcing and artifical, if you are lucky, partner assumes Michaels,
i.e. spades + ?, if partner does not bid spades, I would bid 5D

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Posted 2010-January-05, 16:52

Pass then 3 looks like a sensible approach opposite a sane partner without agreements.

If my spots were better e.g. AT98x+ I would be arguing for 2 on the first round.

Starting with X or 3 guarantees we will lose the spade suit. Maybe you're OK with losing a spade suit when you have A87xx and know there are 4 of them in your right. If you're fine with that, I can see 3 on the first round.
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Posted 2010-January-05, 18:28

I agreed with gnasher's evaluation, there were a lot of red flags, so I went low. I tried pass then 2S and this was a winner, as partner had :

K2 J9xxx x JTxxx

Booked for down 2, made on atrocious defense, but it really didn't matter as everyone else is getting clobbered for 500s and 800s. Once we get to the 3-level the opponents will start doubling as LHO has QJxxx of diamonds and RHO has QJTx of spades. In hindsight I think I got lucky.

Looks like dake50 is the only other person to survive. Upon reflection his plan of direct 2S with a followup of 3D works well, it gets both suits on the table and gives you a shot at staying at the 2-level when there's a misfit. Direct 2S might also preempt the hearts, giving you an advantage in some spade/heart competition.
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  Posted 2010-January-08, 12:23

I like the 2 overcall myself; the hand is bound to be splitting badly.
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