[Ant590]

(3♦) - pass - (3NT) - dbl*
(pass) - pass (4♦) - pass?
* t/o diamonds

Two quick questions
1) Should dbl be a t/o or is just "values" better
2) Should pass be forcing here?

[helene_t]

I think a forcing pass here makes sense but with an unknown p I would assume non-forcing.

If pass is non-forcing, dbl is t/o.

I just got a great idea: if pass is forcing, dbl could be played as t/o with longer spades than hearts.

[Fluffy]

if pass is forcing double is best used as " we are slaughting this" . Wich is the normal meaning if pass is frocing.

This is a rare sequence so you dhould just do what your meta-agreements say. Mines would be awful here

[Ant590]

Fluffy, on Jan 2 2010, 12:35 AM, said:

This is a rare sequence so you dhould just do what your meta-agreements say.

Our meta-rule says that this is a FP situation, for a t/o double has been converted.

However, we weren't 100% sure that such "psyche-revealing" doubles should not set up a forcing pass. How off the wall is this? Would people play a FP in analogous but lower level psyche-reveal auctions?

(1♣) - dbl - (1♠) - dbl
(2♣) - ?

[Fluffy]

yeah, you don't double 1♠ on nothing, I think you are forcing to play 2♠ unless you prefer to double 2♣. Playing the other way makes sense as well, but I don't like exceptions.

MY father and his partner used to play some funny thing: forcing passes only happen at even levels, so at the 2&4 level pass is foricng but at the 3&5 level pass is not forcing.

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

#1 values
#2 no

With kind regards
Marlowe

[P_Marlowe]

Ant590, on Jan 1 2010, 07:09 PM, said:

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However, we weren't 100% sure that such "psyche-revealing" doubles should not set up a forcing pass.
<snip>

Who said, that 3NT was psych?

3NT is certainly a common psych bid, but sometimes you will have reasonable
diamond support, feeling that 3NT has a reasonable chance, but dont want to
play 3NTx.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[Echognome]

I think that whether you categorize the run to 4♦ as "psych revealing" or not is irrelevant. Partner passed 3NTX, so you are now in a forcing pass.