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Posted 2009-December-19, 01:35

Here is a strange one that happened today -

N/S were bidding hearts, E/W diamonds and the contract ended up 5D by East.

South (me) led the Ace of Hearts and West started to put dummy down on the table - at the same time my partner (North) started to put her hand down as dummy (yes, it is the Christmas season !) - she got as far as putting the King and Jack of hearts down before I shrieked loudly enough for her to wake up.

Fortunately, I wasn't the Director called to the table.

A. Does the Ace of heart lead still stand?
B. Does North (my partner) decide which of the two penalty cards is played?
C. When I lead again, and a heart lead is forbidden, am I authorised to know my partner has the King?
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Posted 2009-December-19, 01:44

Chris3875, on Dec 19 2009, 08:35 AM, said:

Here is a strange one that happened today -

N/S were bidding hearts, E/W diamonds and the contract ended up 5D by East.

South (me) led the Ace of Hearts and West started to put dummy down on the table - at the same time my partner (North) started to put her hand down as dummy (yes, it is the Christmas season !) - she got as far as putting the King and Jack of hearts down before I shrieked loudly enough for her to wake up.

Fortunately, I wasn't the Director called to the table.

A. Does the Ace of heart lead still stand?
B. Does North (my partner) decide which of the two penalty cards is played?
C. When I lead again, and a heart lead is forbidden, am I authorised to know my partner has the King?

A: Yes
B: No
C: No

However, if the Director judges (IMHO Incorrectly) that North instead of exposing her cards actually played two cards to the trick then the answer to B becomes yes.
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Posted 2009-December-19, 01:47

OK thanks - so what you are saying is that Declarer could have chosen the King to be played ? because my partner was certainly putting her hand down as dummy
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Posted 2009-December-19, 01:53

Chris3875, on Dec 19 2009, 08:47 AM, said:

OK thanks - so what you are saying is that Declarer could have chosen the King to be played ? because my partner was certainly putting her hand down as dummy
B)

As she was exposing her cards (see Law 49) rather than playing them (see Law 58B2) - yes, absolutely.
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Posted 2009-December-19, 07:05

pran, on Dec 19 2009, 02:44 AM, said:

Chris3875, on Dec 19 2009, 08:35 AM, said:

Here is a strange one that happened today -

N/S were bidding hearts, E/W diamonds and the contract ended up 5D by East.

South (me) led the Ace of Hearts and West started to put dummy down on the table - at the same time my partner (North) started to put her hand down as dummy (yes, it is the Christmas season !) - she got as far as putting the King and Jack of hearts down before I shrieked loudly enough for her to wake up.

Fortunately, I wasn't the Director called to the table.

A. Does the Ace of heart lead still stand?
B. Does North (my partner) decide which of the two penalty cards is played?
C. When I lead again, and a heart lead is forbidden, am I authorised to know my partner has the King?

A: Yes
B: No
C: No


However, if the Director judges (IMHO Incorrectly) that North instead of exposing her cards actually played two cards to the trick then the answer to B becomes yes.

Speaking to the incorrectness, or more aptly put, the correctness of such a ruling-there notably is the following provision of law that suggests strongly that the cards are played to the trick:

L45C1. A defender’s card held so that it is possible for his partner to see its face must be played to the current trick (if the defender has already made a legal play to the current trick, see Law 45E).
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Posted 2009-December-19, 07:35

axman, on Dec 19 2009, 02:05 PM, said:

pran, on Dec 19 2009, 02:44 AM, said:

Chris3875, on Dec 19 2009, 08:35 AM, said:

Here is a strange one that happened today -

N/S were bidding hearts, E/W diamonds and the contract ended up 5D by East.

South (me) led the Ace of Hearts and West started to put dummy down on the table - at the same time my partner (North) started to put her hand down as dummy (yes, it is the Christmas season !) - she got as far as putting the King and Jack of hearts down before I shrieked loudly enough for her to wake up.

Fortunately, I wasn't the Director called to the table.

A. Does the Ace of heart lead still stand?
B. Does North (my partner) decide which of the two penalty cards is played?
C. When I lead again, and a heart lead is forbidden, am I authorised to know my partner has the King?

A: Yes
B: No
C: No


However, if the Director judges (IMHO Incorrectly) that North instead of exposing her cards actually played two cards to the trick then the answer to B becomes yes.

Speaking to the incorrectness, or more aptly put, the correctness of such a ruling-there notably is the following provision of law that suggests strongly that the cards are played to the trick:

L45C1. A defender’s card held so that it is possible for his partner to see its face must be played to the current trick (if the defender has already made a legal play to the current trick, see Law 45E).

There is a difference between playing cards to a trick and facing a hand as dummy, and it should not be much of a task for the Director to distinguish and decide what happened.

Here OP even stated that he had shrieked loudly enough for her to wake up, apparently in order to stop her from facing more cards.
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