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Bashed Opening lead problem

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Posted 2004-July-06, 09:42

In the final match of the Ontario, CA A/X Swiss you find yourself in the rare position of being in contention to actually win the event. Sitting on your right is Mark Itabashi.

You pick up:
xxxxx Jxx x ATxx

And hear this auction:

Client Mark
1 2
2 4N
5 6N
All Pass

5 shows 2 keys and the Q

Your opening lead?


I'll post the answer in a few days.

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Posted 2004-July-06, 09:53

A followed by small .
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Posted 2004-July-06, 09:53

Low club.
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Posted 2004-July-06, 09:56

Absolutely, AC + low clubs. Especially in a post like this :D

Not low club, because partner may have Kxx and duck
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Posted 2004-July-06, 09:57

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Posted 2004-July-06, 10:09

PriorKnowledge, on Jul 6 2004, 04:56 PM, said:

Absolutely, AC + low clubs. Especially in a post like this :D

Not low club, because partner may have Kxx and duck

What????????? Duck???? Fast, find a new partner! :P
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Posted 2004-July-06, 10:42


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Posted 2004-July-06, 12:33

2 sounds like a tactical Mark bid, who was going to bid 6 NT along.
Down 1 is good bridge, in this case for us.
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Posted 2004-July-06, 14:25

Spade.
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Posted 2004-July-06, 14:27

first, not a spade... partner didn't double the spade bid, and i see no future there... secondly, not a heart... partner didn't x the final contract... so i'm down to a club and my stiff diamond

maybe the 2 bid was a psych and maybe not.. i'm leading my stiff diamond tho, since i trust his bid
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Posted 2004-July-06, 17:07

Ok fine, you twisted my arm, ;) I'll give you the full hand. Mark held:

AQ
x
AKQJxxxx
Qx

The views on this hand fall into 3 categories:

1) Anything but a club
2) Really want to lead a club, but don't have the guts
3) Lead the club

Sure the auction smells like a red herring, which may be enough of a reason to make the lead. I'm not satisified with comments from the players that say: Its an old trick; a club is automatic. What I really am looking for are the logical reasons for a club lead. I can name a few - and feel free to chime in if you can think of others....

Tactical reasons:

1) There can't be any reason why the 2 call improved his hand. Why not start with 4N?

2) Why isn't he signing off in or 6 with presumed solidity; other than letting the client play the hand.

Technical reasons:

1) Pard didn't double the 5 call

2) There are a lot of unaccounted diamonds on this hand. If you presume Mark has no better than KQJ9x (x?) of clubs, and no trump fit, he might have tried 3 looking for a side suit fit

3) Lets try to give a realistic reconstruction based on the bidding: Lets give the client a solid heart suit and an outside card: Kxx, AKQTxx, xx, xx.

Axx, xx, Axx, KQJ9x just isn't enough firepower for this auction.

Axx, xx, Ax, KQJ9xx still looks like a stretch for 6N; versus 6 looks a lot safer.

Ax, xx, Ax, KQJ9xxx is about the best construction I think I can come up with. A club ruff is a real possibility, and the clubs are a definite source of tricks in 6N. Still with this hand, 6N is outright silly if the client has a stiff in a pointed suit, whereas 6 or is gin.

And note with the above hand, if either hand has an extra honor card, if you pick the wrong suit, the hand is still making.

So, on a relative basis, I think the club lead (Ace) stands out.

Hey, if it works, you've got a story for a lifetime! More importantly you win the event :P

Note: My pard was on the hot seat here.
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Posted 2004-July-06, 17:17

what did mark's partner have in hearts? with the spade king at worse onside (and maybe in his p's hand) all he needs from partner is the A,K of (after my diamond lead anyway heheh)... oh well, it was a good tactical bid, give him credit
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Posted 2004-July-06, 18:46

Like I said, it helps to know who is bidding what.
He knew all along he was going to bid 6 NT.
The auction spelled, and no X of 5

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Posted 2004-July-07, 00:30

I'm leading my Ace, simply because declarer might think I have something else, and will finesse the wrong way... Also, who has s? My p would've bid them if he had em :D
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Posted 2004-July-07, 10:06

Client held:

Kxx
AKQTxx
xx
xx

17 tricks on anything but a club lead.
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Posted 2004-July-07, 17:37

sigh.. well like i said, he'd have snookered me
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