[mcphee]

The opps pass and your side finds this auction
1C 1NT
3H

I was somewhat surprised at what some players felt 3H was. So lets see what this group feels.

[MFA]

Splinter with clubs.

[Phil]

MFA, on Dec 13 2009, 09:30 AM, said:

Splinter with clubs.

Yeah; some kind of strong 3136 or 7♣1♥(32).

[h2osmom]

self splinter in clubs for me as well.

[ONEferBRID]

Classic self-splinter; strong, long Clubs .
2H would have been a forcing bid ( reverse ), so 3H is a jump over a forcing bid
which is the general definition for a splinter.
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Another in this category would be:
1C - 1H
1NT - 3S! = self-splinter; strong, long Hts

[aguahombre]

We have defined it as 4-1-3-5 with 19+, due to not opening 1D.

1C 1NT 3D would be 4-4-1-4 big
1C 1NT 3S would be 1-4-3-5 big. (1-3-4-5 would reverse)
1D 1NT 3H would be 4-1-4-4 big
1D 1NT 3S would be 1-4-4-4 big.

Very specific, and not workable in certain other styles. Just describing what we do.
Big hands with void in X would reverse or jump shift.

[peachy]

Splinter, clubs agreed.

[inquiry]

If you play on BBO with a more of less random partner, you had best not assume he will understand tihs meaning (yes, it is a fine meaning to be a self-splinter).

In one two month period, the auction

1C- 1NT
3X

where 3X was diamonds, hearts or spades, occurred 590 times.

Once it was a void,
Six times it was a singleton

A fair number of hands (about 1/3) the 3 bidder had a long suit in the bid suit (strong club system obviously).

The other nearly two thrids of the time, the jumper had a two suiter with either 4 or 5 in the second suit and a longer club suit. Sort of an extra strong reverse I guess.

[Codo]

I know people whi insist that this shows a 6 club/5 heart hand with not enough HCP strength for a real reverse. You do not like this? Nor do I, but still it happens.

[mcphee]

For me I thought it was just obvious as a splinter, after all nothing else makes any sense to me. However Codo will be pleased to know that I found some other player who believes it was 5H and 6C.

[gwnn]

pretty sure it's a Garozzo gadget. Not sure if he still plays it but I think he invented it (simple jump in a higher suit=~10-13 with 5-6)

[whereagles]

I would take that as some 6-5 bordering on a 2♣ opener (or equivalent).

Why? Because of the common sense rule that undiscussed bids are supposed to be NATURAL

[peachy]

whereagles, on Dec 14 2009, 09:36 AM, said:

I would take that as some 6-5 bordering on a 2♣ opener (or equivalent).

Why? Because of the common sense rule that undiscussed bids are supposed to be NATURAL

Someone who thinks doublejumps into a new suit are natural, does not play splinters at all. Apparently no strength-showing reverses either, if they need 3H as natural. All those, please raise your hands so I can mark you as enemy:)

[jdonn]

I have heard of what Codo suggests and I also don't like it. Self splinter is fine and what I consider normal.

[pooltuna]

inquiry, on Dec 13 2009, 10:07 PM, said:

If you play on BBO with a more of less random partner, you had best not assume he will understand tihs meaning (yes, it is a fine meaning to be a self-splinter).

In one two month period, the auction

1C- 1NT
3X 

where 3X was diamonds, hearts or spades, occurred 590 times.

Once it was a void,
Six times it was a singleton

A fair number of hands (about 1/3) the 3 bidder had a long suit in the bid suit (strong club system obviously).

The other nearly two thrids of the time, the jumper had a two suiter with either 4 or 5 in the second suit and a longer club suit. Sort of an extra strong reverse I guess.

Yes I have run across this as well. When the CHO labels himself an expert or a WC and does this, I promptly move him into my ♣list with the AFI designation so I will recognize him in the future

[lmilne]

Yeah, this looks like a splinter to me. I do like that so-called Garozzo gadget on some hands though - 1C-1H-2S being ~10-13, 5/6 has had a fair amount of success in my partnership. We certainly don't play 1C-1S-3H the same way though.