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#1 User is offline   MTSummit 

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Posted 2009-December-05, 12:23

hello, i found it in conventional card but don't know what it really means.
could anyone help me? thanks!
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Posted 2009-December-05, 12:32

1. When you open 1NT and left hand opponent doubles, responders call mean the same as without the double.
1NT - (Dbl) - 2♣ = stayman, 2♦ transfers for ♥ etc.

2. When you overcall 1NT and left hand passes, responders call mean the same as after opening 1NT
(1♦) - 1NT - (pass) - 2  = stayman, 2♦ transfers for ♥ etc.
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Posted 2009-December-05, 12:32

it usually refers to the situations

1NT-(dbl)-?
where it means that we bid as if the opponent has passes instead of doubled, i.e. transfers and stayman etc apply.

and/or

(1♦)-1NT-(pass)-?
where it means that we bid as if partner had opened 1NT rather than overcalled, ie. stayman, transfers etc apply. (the opening bid could also be some other suit, ♦ is just an example).

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Posted 2009-December-05, 12:40

Many people play system on over 1NT-(2♣), as long as 2♣ didn't promise both majors.
i.e. double=stayman, 2♦=hearts, etc
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Posted 2009-December-05, 12:44

thanks dicklont & helene_t,

the next question is, if i agree system on for both situations, should i write on cc "system on over double and overcall" or something similar?
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Posted 2009-December-05, 13:15

MTSummit, on Dec 5 2009, 07:44 PM, said:

thanks dicklont & helene_t,

the next question is, if i agree system on for both situations, should i write on cc "system on over double and overcall" or something similar?

System on over overcall sounds as if it applies when p opens 1nt and they overcall.

Better put it in the relevant secotions. Under defensive bidding, put 1NT=15-18 (system on)
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Posted 2009-December-05, 13:37

helene_t, on Dec 5 2009, 02:15 PM, said:

MTSummit, on Dec 5 2009, 07:44 PM, said:

thanks dicklont & helene_t,

the next question is, if i agree system on for both situations, should i write on cc "system on over double and overcall" or something similar?

System on over overcall sounds as if it applies when p opens 1nt and they overcall.

Better put it in the relevant secotions. Under defensive bidding, put 1NT=15-18 (system on)

thx for advice! :rolleyes:
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Posted 2009-December-05, 13:39

gwnn, on Dec 5 2009, 01:40 PM, said:

Many people play system on over 1NT-(2♣), as long as 2♣ didn't promise both majors.
i.e. double=stayman, 2♦=hearts, etc

y, i'm also customed with this
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