[inquiry]

Bbradley62, on 2011-June-23, 21:07, said:

Odd... I asked a simple and direct question about procedure. Why would an admin downvote my question without answering it?

"I: down voted your post because "I" didn't like your the tone of your post talking about the use of "I" in the post by rain. "I" am not particulary fond of attacks on Rain and "I" thought yours was offensive to "I" (well me). "I" hope this explains why "I" downvoted your post. But if it doesn't, "I" don't care if it doesn;t. "I" guess "I" could have used some sort of official saction, but "I" didn't think "I" could have justified that to "I" (well myself).

"I" had no attention to discuss what moderators can do with or without consultation. But if you must know, "I" guess I can tell you that we can do thing individually or after consultation with others. Ban's that extend to the gaming site are GENERALLY administired by the yellow of the name "ABUSE" but all yellows can give limited bans which they must justify and which are subject to immediate reversal, or will expire shortly anyway. That is a purpose of the "super secret" forum where they report such actions. Generally they are to report and not take action themselves. A few yellows (not me) have more power and authority than even abuse. Rain is one of these, and she earned that position of power over time.

Just so you know, "I" counted the number of tiimes "I" used "I" in this post for you to make it easy for you to complain about "I" (well, my) use of "I". Counting this use, there are 23 "I"'s in this post.

[matmat]

inquiry, on 2011-June-24, 08:38, said:

Just so you know, "I" counted the number of tiimes "I" used "I" in this post for you to make it easy for you to complain about "I" (well, my) use of "I". Counting this use, there are 23 "I"'s in this post.

The lowercase 'i's feel left out.

[Bbradley62]

inquiry, on 2011-June-24, 08:38, said:

"I: down voted your post because "I" didn't like your the tone of your post talking about the use of "I" in the post by rain. "I" am not particulary fond of attacks on Rain and "I" thought yours was offensive to "I" (well me).

Mine was an attack that offended you, but not the post that started:

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Rain, it never ceases to amaze me how ignorant you are about pretty much everything related to BBF and BBF posts/posters/whatever. Not only that, but you do not even attempt to find facts, you merely make baseless speculations, and assume they are probably correct...

[Rain]

I removed a topic naming some players as cheater suspects - To report suspected UI sharers, please email the names, along with some evidence (like hand results or anything else you have) to abuse@bridgebase.com.

[Vampyr]

Rain, on 2011-June-23, 15:55, said:

Lurpoa and the aliases I know of, and the IP addresses I know about, have been banned. Her aliases I am trying to perm ban.

And JLOGIC's aliases that he has been using to upvote himself and downvote Lurpoa? Are they being banned as well?

Oh, missed a couple of posts in which this question has been asked. It's well worth asking again though. There seems to be a serious issue of preferential treatment.

This post has been edited by Vampyr: 2011-June-24, 15:10

[mgoetze]

I would be really interested in the definition of "vote spamming". After all, I wouldn't want to accidentally be guilty of it.

[hrothgar]

I am upset that I missed out on such an exciting flame war...

Is there still any opportunity to upvote, downvote, or at least unleash a string of profanities?

[jjbrr]

hrothgar, on 2011-June-24, 15:59, said:

I am upset that I missed out on such an exciting flame war...

Is there still any opportunity to upvote, downvote, or at least unleash a string of profanities?

Yes, ample opportunity. And please do; the comedy that ensues is wonderfully entertaining.

[diana_eva]

Water Cooler is over there

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[JLOGIC]

I HAD TO REMOVE ALL JLALL POSTS AND BAN HIM FOREVA. HE DISCUSSED THE POOPSHOOT.

[inquiry]

one water cooler post was deleted for inappropriate content.

One user's signature was edited for same reason.

[inquiry]

A second water cooler post was deleted for same reason as the one in the post above.

[inquiry]

The thread "Correct Ruling??" was moved from "General Bridge Discussion" to "Simple Rulings"

[Rain]

Edited a post that's clearly a personal attack by Lurpoa (by deleting its contents). Lurpoa is supposed to be banned still - so trying to make sure ban is in effect as well.

[Foxx]

Rain, on 2011-June-30, 08:31, said:

Edited a post that's clearly a personal attack by Lurpoa (by deleting its contents). Lurpoa is supposed to be banned still - so trying to make sure ban is in effect as well.

Why does so much of the fun stuff here happen while I'm asleep?

[inquiry]

A post entitled New heads up tournament was moved from "general bridge discussion" to "suggestion for the software". Note, this is important in this case as the key people who might consider such a suggestion surely read that forum, other forums for them are hit and miss.

[Vampyr]

inquiry, on 2011-June-25, 08:06, said:

one water cooler post was deleted for inappropriate content.

One user's signature was edited for same reason.

Why do you always leave out the juicy details?

[inquiry]

Vampyr, on 2011-June-30, 19:33, said:

Why do you always leave out the juicy details?

Because the content was inappropriate. In addition, in general, I am against mentioning names of people who are thus sanctioned.

[Antrax]

JLOGIC, on 2011-June-23, 11:00, said:

Believe it or not, Lurpoa brought the harrassment upon herself! She got negative voted and effectively ostracized, because she continuously negative voted people for no reason. This was before we were able to see who was downvoting anyone, so I'm sure she felt like she could get away with it (and indeed she could, see why enabling being able to see who was downvoting people was a positive thing?).

If ostracizing a member is a good outcome, indeed seeing who downvoted whom was a positive thing.

JLOGIC, on 2011-June-23, 11:00, said:

She got a single downvote for that. Who is harassing who in this thread?
Keep in mind, Antrax is a far newer poster than her with less posts, who posts mainly in the beginner/int section.

For completeness' sake, the downvote was mine. I also replied in-thread explaining why I thought her reply was uncalled for.

You seem like a smart person, JLOGIC, I honestly don't understand why you think the Lurpoa crusade is/was worth your time.

RAIN said:

Finally, it doesn't look like we can trust voting as a main determinant in the logic of what posts are particularly good (for the purpose of automatically putting into news or homepage) if votes are not being used in the spirit intended.

In the future, outright stating what the intended purpose of the voting system is could go a long way towards achieving its goal. When voting was implemented, some vague comment about "votes could mean more than you think..." was made, which led every poster to vote according to whatever agenda he thought is best. Personally I thought downvotes would be used to track offensive posters that may be unaware of how they're perceived (very common on the internet). Apparently the intent was to filter quality bridge content, yet no mention of this was made until after half the system was pulled.
And generally, while we're giving feedback about forum moderation, transparency is often a really good idea. Don't think it could limit you in any way if you publicize your set of policies, there's always the #1 rule "don't be an ass" which tends to cover all the bases.

[Rain]

Removed a thread that alleges UI.

To report UI, please email abuse@bridgebase.com. You probably want to include at least 10 suspicious hands, not just 1 or 2. Your email will be read. Posting and naming names on BBF for this purpose is not allowed. Thanks for reporting this thread.