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#1 User is offline   shyams 

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Posted 2009-November-19, 05:15

This is probably interesting only because it was MPs
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RHO deals and opens with a 3C preempt.
a. Your call? Dbl or 3NT
b. If you choose to Dbl, what do you plan to do if partner bids: 3D, 3H, 3S?
c. Is this a wtp?

Additonal info: RHO is not the kind of person who will bid 3C with a 6-card suit, so a minimum length of 7 is assured.
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Posted 2009-November-19, 05:29

My first reaction was to bid 3NT, but thinking about it a little longer I think double is better. If partner has a singleton club, 4M is much more likely to be right. If partner has a doubleton club (or singleton honor) then 3NT is probably better but 4M may still be ok.

If partner bids 3D then I would bid 3NT. If partner doesn't have a 4-card major then he's quite unlikely to have a stiff club. With a 4-card major he wouldn't pass 3NT after a double.
and the result can be plotted on a graph.
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Posted 2009-November-19, 05:33

I think this is a clear dbl. Obviously, you are happy if partner responds in a major. If he responds 3D, i will try 3NT.

EDIT: Not so sure what i would do if partner surprises me with 4♣ or 4M.
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Posted 2009-November-19, 05:43

I bid 4H over 4C, pass 4M.
and the result can be plotted on a graph.
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Posted 2009-November-19, 06:02

#a 3NT.
#b over 3D => 3NT, 3H or 3S will get raised to game
#c no, double and 3NT are both reasonable

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Posted 2009-November-19, 06:53

I would double for flexibility as it still enables me to bid 3NT over partner's 3♦ response. Over a 3M response I will raise to game.
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Posted 2009-November-19, 07:02

My first reaction was 3NT, as I wrote my firts post, I was thinking,
that double had a lot going for it, but I stayed with my first vote.

Now my third wave of thinking: If one is forcing to game, than 3NT
will be the bid, that will right side the contract more often than X,
since over 3NT has still the option to bid Stayman and Transfer.

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PS: Stay tuned, there may be 4th wave coming ...
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Posted 2009-November-19, 10:07

Double!
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Posted 2009-November-19, 10:27

Double. My reasoning is much like han's but I wasn't nearly as tempted by 3NT.
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Posted 2009-November-19, 13:53

3NT right sides the contract. And by that I mean it prevents partner playing it.
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Posted 2009-November-20, 05:57

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At the table, I considered dbl and 3NT but finally chose 3NT. I was playing with a pick-up partner and I was not sure how things will pan out.

Question: If South doubles 3C, would you bid 3H or 3D with the North hand?
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Posted 2009-November-20, 07:41

P_Marlowe, on Nov 19 2009, 03:02 PM, said:

Now my third wave of thinking: If one is forcing to game, than 3NT
will be the bid, that will right side the contract more often than X,
since over 3NT has still the option to bid Stayman and Transfer.

Are you sure, Marlowe?
3NT can be called on a wide variety of hands with a club stopper, for instance with long diamonds.
I would not like my partner to stayman over that.
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Posted 2009-November-20, 07:43

shyams, on Nov 20 2009, 01:57 PM, said:

Question: If South doubles 3C, would you bid 3H or 3D with the North hand?

3♥ but I would fear to miss a game or slam in ♦.
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Posted 2009-November-20, 08:01

shyams, on Nov 20 2009, 12:57 PM, said:

Question: If South doubles 3C, would you bid 3H or 3D with the North hand?

3♦, especially at matchpoints. With so little high-card strength, I'm happy to try to get a plus score. 3♥ might be a horrible contract, and it might encourage him to raise when he was passing 3♦.

Having bid 3♦, I'd convert 3NT to 4♥.

This post has been edited by gnasher: 2009-November-20, 08:02

... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2009-November-20, 11:01

Double with 4-4 in the majors is really clear imo.
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