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Interference with 1NT or X Your bid in second ?

Poll: RHO opens 1C : What is your bid in second position (28 member(s) have cast votes)

RHO opens 1C : What is your bid in second position

  1. 1NT (23 votes [82.14%])

    Percentage of vote: 82.14%

  2. Double (5 votes [17.86%])

    Percentage of vote: 17.86%

  3. Others (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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Posted 2009-November-16, 01:37

RHO opens 1C
What do you bid? Why?


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Posted 2009-November-16, 01:40

1N because it shows my hand
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Posted 2009-November-16, 01:44

1NT.

I am bal., have a great stopper, no shortage in their suit, 15-17/18HCP,
and an well defined agreement set after a 1NT overcall, why would I
make a t/o?

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Posted 2009-November-16, 03:59

1NT because that is what I have, 15-17(18) and clubs stopped. We can still find a major fit if there is one
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Posted 2009-November-16, 04:14

1NT, 15-18 bal. What's the problem? Have a probable double club stopper too....
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Posted 2009-November-16, 06:28

After 1 Diamond there had been a smaller majority for 1 NT, but after 1 Club this is close to a no brainer.
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Posted 2009-November-16, 06:31

just bid like a human being ;) 1NT
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Posted 2009-November-16, 07:17

I would double, for two reasons:

1. Easier to find a major suit fit, i.e. if I bid 1NT it might go

(1♣) 1NT all pass

and with double it might now go

(1♣) dbl pass 1M
pass 2M

etc.

2. If pard bids 1♦, I can do a slight upgrade and rebid 1NT. If he bids 2♦, I have an easy raise to 2NT.
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Posted 2009-November-16, 07:21

1NT obv.

If there is anyone in the world whose partners teach them to double instead, I would be curious to know: Do these partners double too, or is this just an unkind strategem designed to right-side the declarer...
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Posted 2009-November-16, 07:31

I would feel a little uncomfortable if it went
(1♣)-x-(2♣)-2♦
(pass)-?

Also
(1♣)-x-(pass)-1♦
(pass)-1NT
could take us too high as I may be unable to reach dummy's diamonds.

OTHO dbl helps us find a major suit fit.

Doesn't seem to matter much. Or am I missing something?
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Posted 2009-November-16, 08:05

Double is not terrible. With a 17-count, I could rebid NT after a diamond call from partner. If I had the same hand but minors reversed, and RHO opened 1♦, the situation is worse. Over 1♣, partner may be able to get his diamonds off his chest at a lower level, which might help.

I don't have the traditional upgrade to justify aggression, but I do have a lot of positional strengths.

I mean, in practice I'd bid 1NT, but I think double is reasonable.
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Posted 2009-November-16, 13:11

Helene:

I would feel a little uncomfortable if it went
(1♣)-x-(2♣)-2♦
(pass)-?

That is just about the only bad thing that can happen with double. But I don't think it's a likely follow-up. And even if it happens it should make, as pard rates to have ♦ Kxxxx and a few scraps on the side.


Also
(1♣)-x-(pass)-1♦
(pass)-1NT
could take us too high as I may be unable to reach dummy's diamonds.

So you're bidding (1♣)-1NT right away then? :rolleyes:
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Posted 2009-November-16, 13:19

whereagles, on Nov 16 2009, 02:11 PM, said:

Also
(1♣)-x-(pass)-1♦
(pass)-1NT
could take us too high as I may be unable to reach dummy's diamonds.

So you're bidding (1♣)-1NT right away then? :rolleyes:

I don't think she means 1NT will be too high, but that the 1NT rebid after doubling is too big an overbid (it usually shows 19-20 or perhaps 19-21) and partner will raise us too high.

I would bid 1NT like most of the others, and fwiw if you do choose double I think it's clear to pass 1♦.
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Posted 2009-November-16, 15:01

jdonn, on Nov 16 2009, 02:19 PM, said:

whereagles, on Nov 16 2009, 02:11 PM, said:

Also
(1♣)-x-(pass)-1♦
(pass)-1NT
could take us too high as I may be unable to reach dummy's diamonds.

So you're bidding (1♣)-1NT right away then? :)

I don't think she means 1NT will be too high, but that the 1NT rebid after doubling is too big an overbid (it usually shows 19-20 or perhaps 19-21) and partner will raise us too high.

I would bid 1NT like most of the others, and fwiw if you do choose double I think it's clear to pass 1♦.

Chicken.

If you bid 1NT, partner's will undervalue his hand -- he always does in this situation. This time, he will be right.
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