You can probably force a standard system with walsh (not T-walsh) to go to about 3NT, but it would be wierd.
A slightly different variation I've had once (few years back) is.
1C-(1D)-1H-(1S)
1NT-(2C)
I wonder how far anyone has gone in that regard.
And yes, with Helene, 1C-1D-1H-1S-1NT-2C is to play, I guess partner could bid 2D to offer choice of moysians if 3334 so 2H is the furthest we can go. Ask me in 30 years time if that ever comes up.
edit: with my other partner:
1C- could be 2 if 12-14/18-19 4432
1D- standard walsh
1H- unbalanced 5+C, 4H
1S- natural GF
1NT- semi-balanced, 3415 or 2425
2C- sets clubs as trumps, 4153 or 4054
2D- 2425
2H- 4153 with high honour in ♥.
We can probably force that further if we really wanted.
What does this mean in your system? Just for fun
#22
Posted 2009-November-15, 15:07
1♣ 1♦
1♥ 1♠
1NT 2♣
2♦ 2♥
2♠ 2NT
3♣
1♣ = 5+ clubs or 13-16 bal (1/2 NV) or 12-14 (elsewhere)
1♦ = 4+ hearts
1♥ = three card heart support or could be four if 13-14/12-13
1♠ = natural, and denies 5 hearts (any 2-level bid would be a transfer)
1NT = natural, 13-16/12-14 bal, three card hearts, not 4 spades
2♣ = puppet to 2♦, any invite or sign off in diamonds (not likely since he has hearts and spades)
2♦ = accepting puppet
2♥ = inviting game in a known moysian fit
2♠ = not accepting, would rather play in spade moysian
2NT = was interested in game in a heart moysian: I might have invented the spades in order to make it obvious I have only 4 hearts (2C [instead of 1S] - 2D[denies weak with 4 hearts] - 2H would be an invite with five hearts)
3♣ = I am very confused, but I have five clubs ... this is possibly a bad bid.
1♥ 1♠
1NT 2♣
2♦ 2♥
2♠ 2NT
3♣
1♣ = 5+ clubs or 13-16 bal (1/2 NV) or 12-14 (elsewhere)
1♦ = 4+ hearts
1♥ = three card heart support or could be four if 13-14/12-13
1♠ = natural, and denies 5 hearts (any 2-level bid would be a transfer)
1NT = natural, 13-16/12-14 bal, three card hearts, not 4 spades
2♣ = puppet to 2♦, any invite or sign off in diamonds (not likely since he has hearts and spades)
2♦ = accepting puppet
2♥ = inviting game in a known moysian fit
2♠ = not accepting, would rather play in spade moysian
2NT = was interested in game in a heart moysian: I might have invented the spades in order to make it obvious I have only 4 hearts (2C [instead of 1S] - 2D[denies weak with 4 hearts] - 2H would be an invite with five hearts)
3♣ = I am very confused, but I have five clubs ... this is possibly a bad bid.
I ♦ Transfers
#23
Posted 2009-November-15, 15:24
Hi,
With my regular p, I play a 5 card major system with weak NT.
1C - at least 3 cards
1D - if responder has a 4 card major, than he has at least 8HCP and at least
5 diamonds
1H - unbal.
1S - nat., at least 8HCP and 5-4
1NT - now the whole thing gets to become interesting, but my guess is 2-4-2-5.
maybe a single diamond is possible, i.e. 3-4-1-5
2C - to play, looks like 5-4-3-1
I will cross check.
With kind regards
Marlowe
With my regular p, I play a 5 card major system with weak NT.
1C - at least 3 cards
1D - if responder has a 4 card major, than he has at least 8HCP and at least
5 diamonds
1H - unbal.
1S - nat., at least 8HCP and 5-4
1NT - now the whole thing gets to become interesting, but my guess is 2-4-2-5.
maybe a single diamond is possible, i.e. 3-4-1-5
2C - to play, looks like 5-4-3-1
I will cross check.
With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
#24
Posted 2009-November-15, 17:15
In Walsh (not t-w) style, I can only progress thru 2S before the sequence is broken, because 2NT then, by responder would be too contrived/inconsistent --since a slam cue mode is in play. Oh, well. enough derailing.
"Bidding Spades to show spades can work well." (Kenberg)

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