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Follow-up question
#1
Posted 2009-November-09, 19:58
The poll question refers to players who regularly play in both MP and IMP tournaments (of course).
... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
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#2
Posted 2009-November-09, 20:46
IRL too little. On the forums too much. I probably do so too little.
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#3
Posted 2009-November-09, 21:27
I think most people don't fight for the partscore enough at IMPs. So in that sense they change their bidding too much.
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#4
Posted 2009-November-09, 22:10
I think IMPs players can be chronic overbidders at MPs.
I think some good MP players (like one of my partners) can stay out of good games at IMPs.
I think some good MP players (like one of my partners) can stay out of good games at IMPs.
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#5
Posted 2009-November-09, 22:28
I dont know.. but I do remember reading about decent players playing 100% imp style in Blue Ribbon Pairs(mp) and winning so.......
#6
Posted 2009-November-10, 14:03
I think they change too much.
In general people are too conservative at IMPs on partscore hands or when preempting. I don't think there is a single hand I would open with a preempt at matchpoints but not IMPS though I see other people making this argument quite often. Also people do overbid to silly games at IMPS. The quantity of hand strength that increases your chance of making from 40% to 50% is much less than people realize. And you can only count half of that if partner is doing the same.
Though in slam bidding, people change too little, mostly because slam bidding at matchpoints involves so many external factors.
In general people are too conservative at IMPs on partscore hands or when preempting. I don't think there is a single hand I would open with a preempt at matchpoints but not IMPS though I see other people making this argument quite often. Also people do overbid to silly games at IMPS. The quantity of hand strength that increases your chance of making from 40% to 50% is much less than people realize. And you can only count half of that if partner is doing the same.
Though in slam bidding, people change too little, mostly because slam bidding at matchpoints involves so many external factors.
#7
Posted 2009-November-10, 17:01
Most people do not change their strategy at all because they are bad. By this definition, they change too little.
Almost all pseudo/wannabe experts change their strategies too much because they know a little something and overdo it. A lot of these people tend to read a lot and post on forums
As far as real experts, I would say most go back to changing too little but it's pretty close.
Almost all pseudo/wannabe experts change their strategies too much because they know a little something and overdo it. A lot of these people tend to read a lot and post on forums
As far as real experts, I would say most go back to changing too little but it's pretty close.
#8
Posted 2009-November-10, 17:14
Most people at the club don't know the difference between MP and IMPs.
Of those who do, some overdo it (like bidding every 20% game at IMPs or always bidding notrump at matchpoints), but also some have weird notions on MP strategy (like "a plus score is bound to give good MPs") and some cant resist making unsound 2-level overcalls at IMPs even though they know it's wrong (like Ulven for example
).
Those who post on the forum or are in expert panels of various magazines overdo it to a ridicolous degree. I think they know they overdo it but just keep overdoing anyway because they know other people think they sound like great bidding theorist when they say "X at MP but Y at IMPs".
Of those who do, some overdo it (like bidding every 20% game at IMPs or always bidding notrump at matchpoints), but also some have weird notions on MP strategy (like "a plus score is bound to give good MPs") and some cant resist making unsound 2-level overcalls at IMPs even though they know it's wrong (like Ulven for example
Those who post on the forum or are in expert panels of various magazines overdo it to a ridicolous degree. I think they know they overdo it but just keep overdoing anyway because they know other people think they sound like great bidding theorist when they say "X at MP but Y at IMPs".
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#9
Posted 2009-November-10, 17:16
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#10
Posted 2009-November-11, 08:17
helene_t, on Nov 10 2009, 06:14 PM, said:
Most people at the club don't know the difference between MP and IMPs.
Of those who do, some overdo it (like bidding every 20% game at IMPs or always bidding notrump at matchpoints), but also some have weird notions on MP strategy (like "a plus score is bound to give good MPs") and some cant resist making unsound 2-level overcalls at IMPs even though they know it's wrong (like Ulven for example
).
Those who post on the forum or are in expert panels of various magazines overdo it to a ridicolous degree. I think they know they overdo it but just keep overdoing anyway because they know other people think they sound like great bidding theorist when they say "X at MP but Y at IMPs".
Of those who do, some overdo it (like bidding every 20% game at IMPs or always bidding notrump at matchpoints), but also some have weird notions on MP strategy (like "a plus score is bound to give good MPs") and some cant resist making unsound 2-level overcalls at IMPs even though they know it's wrong (like Ulven for example
Those who post on the forum or are in expert panels of various magazines overdo it to a ridicolous degree. I think they know they overdo it but just keep overdoing anyway because they know other people think they sound like great bidding theorist when they say "X at MP but Y at IMPs".
guilty as charged. However many answer that way on BBF or RGB because the OP did not specify which applied. My response normally is either IMPs based if I didn't notice or specific to the type of scoring and the vulnerability.
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