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Diamonds are forever win forever or lose forever?

Poll: Your opening? (37 member(s) have cast votes)

Your opening?

  1. Pass (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  2. 1D (11 votes [29.73%])

    Percentage of vote: 29.73%

  3. 2D (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  4. 3D (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. 4D (3 votes [8.11%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.11%

  6. 5D (23 votes [62.16%])

    Percentage of vote: 62.16%

  7. 6D (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  8. 7D (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  9. Others. I like psyches! (0 votes [0.00%])

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#1 User is offline   jim420 

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Posted 2009-November-08, 08:57

You've just dealt yourself this hand. How would you open this?

Scoring: IMP

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Posted 2009-November-08, 09:02

5 in all positions, all vulnerabilities, all forms of scoring.

if i am depressed for some reason and pessimistic about my life in general, i might open 4 but i really don't think that's a great idea.
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Posted 2009-November-08, 09:07

ah...so quick

anyway, keep voting plz. Will post the whole hand with the bidding later for you guys to have a look
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Posted 2009-November-08, 09:13

i can guarantee you 100% that 5♦ will not be anything near unanimous
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Posted 2009-November-08, 09:46

4♦ or 5♦ depending on style. I think it is borderline with a random p, but if we have an opportunity to discuss this before playing I prefer this to be a 5♦ opening.
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Posted 2009-November-08, 11:18

I'm not opening this 5♦ ever r/w. Its too easy for it to go x -AP. 4♦ is enough there.

4th I'm not opening this 5♦. I think that is kind of stupid.

1/2/3 I'm OK with 5♦, but I could be talked into 1♦ in 2nd.
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Posted 2009-November-08, 13:41

Conditions of contest say 1st seat at imps NV v NV.

5D
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Posted 2009-November-08, 13:43

I would just open 1D
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Posted 2009-November-08, 14:37

I open 1♦, too many losers and too much defense for 5♦ here.
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Posted 2009-November-08, 16:41

5♦.
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Posted 2009-November-08, 17:10

1♦, because you can't play 3N (or 4♠) after opening 5♦.
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Posted 2009-November-09, 05:12

1!D as hand is opening hand.. i would compete to 5!D
Possibly partner has 1 or 2 cards in !D...
So definately has other suits cards..
why premenpt opening hand..
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Posted 2009-November-09, 05:26

mojila, on Nov 9 2009, 11:12 AM, said:

why premenpt opening hand..

Because opps will be put to a difficult decision. Not saying that it has no disadvantages, just trying to answer your question.

I agree with phil that my "all seats, all forms of scoring" was a little over the top, but I'd definitely open 5♦ almost always.
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Posted 2009-November-09, 06:28

I would hate 4 Diamond. I try 5 Diamond too, 1 Diamond close second choice.
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Posted 2009-November-09, 07:40

1♦ if I am better than opps, 5♦ otherwise.
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Posted 2009-November-09, 07:40

TylerE, on Nov 9 2009, 12:10 AM, said:

1♦, because you can't play 3N (or 4♠) after opening 5♦.

Can you give us an example of an auction where you'd pass 3NT or 4♠ after opening 1♦?
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Posted 2009-November-10, 22:51

Fluffy, on Nov 9 2009, 08:40 AM, said:

1♦ if I am better than opps, 5♦ otherwise.

:ph34r: Amen Fluffy. Little known basic rule. Walk the dog against weaker players. Preempt better players. Holds for other types of hands as well. In short, if they are good: "makem guess". If they are bad, "makem figure it out".
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Posted 2009-November-11, 13:36

The hand you've been waiting for so long - Diamond loses forever, at least to hearts :(

The bidding just went like the stock market. Overbidding like madness and when people start to realize the hand isn't worth the contract, the reality came crashing down

I wouldn't even tell you what position I was in, lol

Scoring: IMP

W N E S
- 5♦ 5♥ 6♦
6♥ 7♦ X P
P P

lead ♠A
7♦xN-4


Comments plz...
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Posted 2009-November-11, 13:49

jim420, on Nov 11 2009, 11:36 AM, said:

Comments plz...

Too many "WOW" bids to go around.
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Posted 2009-November-11, 13:54

5♦ was a good bid but this is not universally accepted as you have seen.

Every other bid was bad, there will be little or no controversy about this.
edit: this is not to say every bid is equally bad but I did not want to be very explicit. In particular
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Well the double of 7♦ was good but that is technically not a bid.
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