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Strong two suited hand but dealer preempted

#1 User is offline   zheddh 

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Posted 2009-November-03, 13:02

(4♥) - ?

If vulnerability matters, please mention.

Scoring: IMP

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Posted 2009-November-03, 13:05

zheddh, on Nov 3 2009, 02:02 PM, said:

(4♥) - ?

If vulnerability matters, please mention.

Scoring: IMP

yet another transfer? :lol:
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Posted 2009-November-03, 13:46

4NT should show a two-suiter, and correcting the inevitable 5♣ to 5♦ should show your suits.
Cheers,
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Posted 2009-November-03, 16:44

4S.

They got you, but xxx in hearts is a sign, that you may not miss anything.

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Posted 2009-November-03, 16:47

It really depends on vul/opponents. I mean if your RHO won't open 4♥ without 8 of them, as is true for some people, then you really have a slam force since they can't possibly take the first two tricks in hearts if you declare (yes I know you could go down anyway). Here I'll bid 4NT first as I think it's most likely to get us to slam.
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Posted 2009-November-03, 16:50

Wow I think 4N is a huge bid on this hand. I would just bid 4S and not think twice.
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Posted 2009-November-03, 19:23

Jlall, on Nov 3 2009, 06:50 PM, said:

Wow I think 4N is a huge bid on this hand. I would just bid 4S and not think twice.

Yeah, I don't think I'd bid it either, unless my Gadget-itis kicks in again.

I tend to make wrong unilateral decisions though, so keeping my options open is
tempting.
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Posted 2009-November-04, 00:30

Scoring: IMP


Does 6S make on some line? I think it should but i fail to construct a line that works!
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Posted 2009-November-04, 00:51

jdonn, on Nov 3 2009, 05:47 PM, said:

It really depends on vul/opponents. I mean if your RHO won't open 4♥ without 8 of them, as is true for some people, then you really have a slam force since they can't possibly take the first two tricks in hearts if you declare (yes I know you could go down anyway). Here I'll bid 4NT first as I think it's most likely to get us to slam.

Do you play transfers over 4NT overcalls?
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Posted 2009-November-04, 08:46

zheddh, on Nov 4 2009, 01:30 AM, said:

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Does 6S make on some line? I think it should but i fail to construct a line that works!

No line for 6 ♠, except on a high club or a spade lead. W always scores the spade J; if declarer plays on cross-ruff lines the spade 8 can ruff in front of dummy while if declarer tries drawing trump the club J scores the setting trick.

If E is on lead, it starts heart-heart-heart ruff, and 10's the limit.
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Posted 2009-November-04, 09:16

First instinct says 4♠. It's true that we can have a much weaker hand than this but the 5 level could be dangerous which is depended upon the size of dummy's spades and diamonds. My 2nd choice would be 4NT.
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