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#1 User is online   jillybean 

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Posted 2009-September-10, 16:00

Scoring: IMP

1 (P) 1 (P)
2 (P) P (2)
P (P) ?

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Posted 2009-September-10, 16:17

Just pass, they are not in an 8 card fit and you don't have any 8 card fit.
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Posted 2009-September-10, 16:41

Jlall, on Sep 10 2009, 05:17 PM, said:

Just pass, they are not in an 8 card fit and you don't have any 8 card fit.

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Posted 2009-September-10, 16:49

Quoting your signature

"Too much bidding theory, not enough work on playing the hand."

This one you get to defend.
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Posted 2009-September-10, 18:33

Thats easy fixed.
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Posted 2009-September-10, 20:24

Wait, what? I assumed 2 was some sort cuebid here... Seriously, opponents overcalled a part score in a suit where they know the *best* they can have is an 8 card fit with a 5-0 split?

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Posted 2009-September-10, 22:10

MattieShoe, on Sep 10 2009, 09:24 PM, said:

Wait, what?  I assumed 2 was some sort cuebid here... Seriously, opponents overcalled a part score in a suit where they know the *best* they can have is an 8 card fit with a 5-0 split? 

:P

And if that is the case you'll set 2 rather nicely. However, it is most likely that the opp's have 7 between them since PD didn't rebid them.

PD has chosen to pass and you have only 7 HCP and must do the same.

For all you know, PD has a 1543 11 count and you can't come close to making 3, 2 or setting 2.

You allready bid your hand w/1 and if PD has 3 card support, he likely would have patterned out with 2 over the opp 2.

Why hasn't PD X'd their 2? Well he may have weak and a min and can't expect to set it and certainly doesn't want them doubled into game.

To me, and since the opp could've cue bid last turn or taken some action, 2 sounds natural and he might just have a decent 6 carder. But that is not your concern, Kathryn as you have a min and PD did see your 1 bid.
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Posted 2009-September-10, 22:33

Scoring: IMP

1 (P) 1 (P)
2 (P) P (2)
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Posted 2009-September-10, 22:45

Kathryn the OP hand you posted has the minors reversed. Here I think I might compete to 3 although if PD has only a random 4 bagger and you go off 2 doubled it won't be a fun postmortum.

As you see the opp has a fine hand for 2...did he make it ?
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Posted 2009-September-10, 23:03

Yeah had you posted the correct hand I would have bid 3D (remember my logic earlier about not having an 8 card fit? Now all of the sudden we do!). You can expect very little wastage in hearts from partner since LHO should have an EXCELLENT suit to bid 2H, and also partner would have doubled if he happened to have a ton of heart values somehow. So the hands should fit pretty well.
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Posted 2009-September-10, 23:18

Oh, the full, 2nd hand is correct sorry all.
I did bid 3, -1 but I think it should make.
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