[mycroft]

The problem is that the game gets very badly seeded, and even with arrow-switching (which we don't do), there is still going to be a bias when there are 9 good pairs from 13 N/S, but only 2 E/W. And trying to move them to properly seed the field is a nightmare, the few times the ACBL says I have to.

[blackshoe]

bluejak, on Sep 29 2009, 11:55 AM, said:

Sven: we call them "Three-quarter Howells", not a very sensible term.

Yes. I prefer the term used by Hallen, et. al.: Reduced Howell.

Mycroft: re: seeding, what I've seen done around here is that the TD places a note on certain tables: "A players only at this table" or some such. Perhaps you would need "no A players at this table" on other tables. You'd probably get complaints at first, but I expect they'd get used to it sooner or later.

[Vampyr]

bluejak, on Sep 29 2009, 04:55 PM, said:

Players who like N/S seats in clubs should have some method of allowing for them without it becoming too extreme.  It sounds as though it may be too extreme in the club mentioned in this thread.

It does seem pretty extreme. A sensible method would be to allow seating requests no earlier than an hour or two before the game, either by phoning or by arriving early.

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(Mycroft)

The problem is that the game gets very badly seeded, and even with arrow-switching (which we don't do), there is still going to be a bias when there are 9 good pairs from 13 N/S, but only 2 E/W. And trying to move them to properly seed the field is a nightmare, the few times the ACBL says I have to.

Why not arrow-switch? It would help a bit. In England two-winner movements are very unpopular (they are not even used in cross-IMPed pairs, which I think is crazy). You might find that players where you are would like one-winner movements once they started playing them.

[shintaro]

Vampyr, on Sep 29 2009, 11:38 PM, said:

Why not arrow-switch? It would help a bit. In England two-winner movements are very unpopular (they are not even used in cross-IMPed pairs, which I think is crazy). You might find that players where you are would like one-winner movements once they started playing them.

Is this in England USA ???

The vast majority of clubs I frequent (in England UK) use 2 winner events unless the number of tables is low then they resort to a Howell purely due to lack of numbers

[RMB1]

My experience from various parts of South England is that one-winner movements are the norm. Two winners usually only occur by accident when they forget to arrow-switch.

Robin

[bluejak]

I run a Sim Pairs in June each year. It is now scored on the internet. But back when I did the scoring myself, I would say that two winner events were about four to six times as frequent as one winner events, excluding small Howells. The four clubs I play in all use two winner events.

[gordontd]

shintaro, on Sep 30 2009, 03:42 PM, said:

Is this in England USA ???

Oh, does England extend outside London?

[Vampyr]

gordontd, on Sep 30 2009, 05:32 PM, said:

Oh, does England extend outside London?

Oops. What I meant to say was, in London and in English tournaments we play one winner movements.

[shintaro]

gordontd, on Sep 30 2009, 11:32 AM, said:

shintaro, on Sep 30 2009, 03:42 PM, said:

Is this in England USA ???

Oh, does England extend outside London?

We have civilisation up north Gordon

[bluejak]

I do not understand this post. What on earth is the connection between civilisation and London?

[RMB1]

bluejak, on Oct 2 2009, 12:23 PM, said:

I do not understand this post.  What on earth is the connection between civilisation and London?

That's easy from your perspective David: the connection between London and civilisation is the North-West mainline railway (or the M1/M6 motorways).

Robin

[shintaro]

bluejak, on Oct 2 2009, 07:23 AM, said:

I do not understand this post. What on earth is the connection between civilisation and London?

Not a lot actually David we up here in the civilised North of Watford feel like missionaries when we venture South

[Trinidad]

bluejak, on Oct 2 2009, 02:23 PM, said:

I do not understand this post.  What on earth is the connection between civilisation and London?

Heathrow International Airport

Rik