Auction goes pass-pass to you...
What's your flavour ..if any
#1
Posted 2009-September-04, 13:43
Auction goes pass-pass to you...
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#2
Posted 2009-September-04, 13:47
Might be persuaded to pass.
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#3
Posted 2009-September-04, 13:47
-gwnn
#4
Posted 2009-September-04, 13:51
andy_h, on Sep 4 2009, 02:43 PM, said:
Auction goes pass-pass to you...
Well the choices I see least likely to get you into trouble [I know, I know ...you are already in trouble] are pass, 1♠, 3♣ with 1♠ or pass getting my highest marks
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#5
Posted 2009-September-04, 14:08
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#6
Posted 2009-September-04, 14:35
#9
Posted 2009-September-04, 17:22
maggieb, on Sep 4 2009, 10:35 PM, said:
Hopefully your opponents do also?! (Or is your partner not a friend of yours .)
Anyways, count me out of 3rd seat lunacy, just because we are green vs red. Not really bridge.
#10
Posted 2009-September-04, 17:44
andy_h, on Sep 4 2009, 02:43 PM, said:
Auction goes pass-pass to you...
Pass almost always, 1s if late night.
#11
Posted 2009-September-04, 17:51
#12
Posted 2009-September-04, 18:01
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#13
Posted 2009-September-04, 18:11
IF I do something creative, I like it to accomplish something. I expect that the opponents can make 4♥. If I want to do something funny, while still aiming to get a good score, I would open 1♥, hoping that LHO doesn't have a bid. The best that can happen is that the opponents have about 15 and 11 points each without a decent bid in the first round, and the hearts splitting about 4-4-4.
In that case, partner will raise my hearts and I will sit. Neither of the opponents will have the pattern to make a TO double and I go down a bunch in 2 or 3♥, undoubled, NV for the wonderful score of about -250 or -300.
In my opinion, opening 1♠ is futile. LHO will double or overcall 2♥ and RHO will make sure they get to game. The best you can achieve is that they play you for all the outstanding cards when partner turns out to have most of them. But if partner has something, he will double their 4♥ and the situation is entirely clear. They will make 4♥ doubled and partner is not going to be amused. (And if partner has a reasonable amount of outstanding cards and doesn't double, you may get in trouble with the TD.)
If you open 1♥ and get to play 2♥, partner will not be amused when you loose the first four tricks. But when he figures out that you loose 7 more and realizes that the opponents should have gotten 650 that feeling might change. But of course, opening 1♥ also has its drawbacks, which is why I predicted that I would pass.
Rik
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#14
Posted 2009-September-04, 20:18
gnasher, on Sep 4 2009, 06:51 PM, said:
Partner is likely to double something because you opened in 3rd seat white/red? Guess this is a style thing, but I would not expect partner to double ever. Even if he has 10 points and they get to 3N, why would he double? Surely they have some reason for bidding 3N despite their lack of HCP. If they get to 4H and he has a couple of tricks, why should he double? Surely they have a reason for bidding 4H. I think it is a losing style for partner to double red/white opps because you opened in 3rd seat fav and he has some HCP. The opps know they lack HCP when they bid whatever.
#15
Posted 2009-September-05, 02:08
It's matchpoints and they're vulnerable. Suppose that they compete to 3♥ over our 2♠, or 4♥ over our 3♠. If partner thinks that opposite a normal opening bid we're making our partscore and the opponents have overcompeted, what is he supposed to do?
If partner isn't ever allowed to double opposite a third-seat opener, you give your side a big disadvantage on all the hands where you actually do have an opening bid. The opponents will keep competing against your making partscores, knowing that it's going to be hard for you to take 200.
#16
Posted 2009-September-05, 12:53
We are all connected to each other biologically, to the Earth chemically, and to the rest of the universe atomically.
We're in the universe, and the universe is in us.
#17
Posted 2009-September-05, 13:07
Jlall, on Sep 4 2009, 09:18 PM, said:
Not only this, but pard should not carelessly compete to the three level.
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#18
Posted 2009-September-05, 13:13
Phil, on Sep 5 2009, 08:07 PM, said:
Jlall, on Sep 4 2009, 09:18 PM, said:
Not only this, but pard should not carelessly compete to the three level.
That sounds like a winning matchpoint strategy.
#19
Posted 2009-September-05, 13:46
In the WBF they are HUM - openings a king or more below average.
In the ACBL they are disallowed - "Opening one bids which by partnership agreement could show fewer than 8 HCP. (Not applicable to a psych.)"
If you have an expectation that partner will not double nor compete to the three-level after these third in hand openings then that seems to be evidence of an agreement even if it is implicit.
1♠ should only be allowed if it is a genuine psyche, that is not part of an implicit agreement. If you open 1♠ every or most times you are dealt this or a similar hand at favourable and if partner expects it and if you expect partner to expect it then it would appear to cross the boundary from psychic bid into partnership agreement. And it would be an illegal partnership agreement.
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#20
Posted 2009-September-05, 13:50