[aguahombre]

Flameous, on Sep 15 2009, 09:20 AM, said:

Playing precision or other weak opening system, I open with 1♠. I can't reverse in to spades and I don't want to put myself into position where I would have to. True, it's not so big problem with ♠s but still comes up.

Is this right? I don't play one of those systems mentioned, but I cannot picture having to "reverse" to the top suit. IF pard's response is in notrump or clubs, I can just rebid my 7-card suit, not introduce the jack-led five-bagger. With a heart response a spade bid is not a reverse.

seems you have more safety opening this hand if the one-bid is limited than with 2/1 or sayc.

[Flameous]

True, I can rebid diamonds but it still means we can miss our 5-3 spade fit. I guess I should have mentioned that I usually also have methods to show 6+ or longer minors after major openings.

[ArtK78]

There are some very "interesting" ideas floating around in this thread.

I would open 1♦ and then bid spades and spades. And if I were playing Precision I would open 1♦ and then bid spades and spades (unless one of these bids was conventional).

The idea that this hand is not good enough to open the bidding is mind boggling. I bet that even Roth and Stone would open the bidding.

[skjaeran]

Obvious 1♦ opening.

I'm bidding 4♠ now, pretty obvious too. Showing 5-6+ and not enough strength to GF last time, my hand is limited.

[kenrexford]

I'll bid 4♠ at this point.

If partner says that 4♠ is a slam try, I'll agree. It asks partner to bid slam if he has two of the four of the top five missing diamonds and spades.

So, if partner has something like ♠KQx ♥J10xx ♦AQx ♣Qxx, a balanced 14-count, he can accept my slam try. With no diamond Queen, but those points somewhere else less useful, he might get aggressive, in which case we need the diamonds to come in.

So, interpret this as a "slam try" if you want. A five-loser hand could be a "slam try" hand.

[bill1157]

rduran1216, on Sep 2 2009, 09:39 PM, said:

I opened 1D

1D 1H
1S 3NT

Now what?


your partner plays absolutely 0 conventions other than an eerily prediscussed, pulling someone out of 3NT is a slam try in the suit bid over 3NT

now bid 4♦ wtp?

Bill

[bill1157]

ArtK78, on Sep 15 2009, 01:42 PM, said:

There are some very "interesting" ideas floating around in this thread.

I would open 1♦ and then bid spades and spades. And if I were playing Precision I would open 1♦ and then bid spades and spades (unless one of these bids was conventional).

The idea that this hand is not good enough to open the bidding is mind boggling. I bet that even Roth and Stone would open the bidding.

Actually Roth would have likely opened 2♦. At least in the 1990's

Bill