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#1 User is offline   cnszsun 

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Posted 2009-August-31, 07:14

Scoring: IMP

1♥-3♣-ps-ps
dbl-ps-??


edit: sry, partner's initial bid is 1♥, not 1♠.
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Posted 2009-August-31, 07:34

Was I asleep on the previous round of bidding?
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Posted 2009-August-31, 07:50

cnszsun, on Aug 31 2009, 08:14 AM, said:

Scoring: IMP

1♠-3♣-ps-ps
dbl-ps-??

Should have bid 3♠ directly over 3♣. We can't tell now how strong partner really is as he made a protection X. Consquently the AK♠ are worth 1 trick max and so we need 2 other red suit winners just to set 1 which is just too close. At this stage I would bid 4♠ to compensate for partner's possible xtra strength.
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Posted 2009-August-31, 08:09

LOL??? 4S now but my initial pass is ludicrous.
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Posted 2009-August-31, 08:47

Four spades and two beers :rolleyes:
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Posted 2009-August-31, 09:22

if partner reopnend with just 11-12 HCP I will be the one blamed, but not for biddign 4♠ now, it is for passing the round before.
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Posted 2009-August-31, 09:29

You must have a guardian angel, second chance at 4♠
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Posted 2009-August-31, 11:47

4♠ then or now looks clear. Not sure the reasoning on round 1 here.
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Posted 2009-August-31, 17:48

LOL. 4♠ was obvious before, and guess what? It still is now!
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Posted 2009-August-31, 17:55

Sry to all the above posters, my typing error.
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Posted 2009-August-31, 21:34

I might dbl 3C at first opportunity to let my partner either bid his second suit (likely diamonds) or to bid 3H without a better call. Now over 3D or 3H, I will bid 3S to tell my partner that I may have fibbed out my points, but that I really have 5 spades, and now he can go to 4S if he'd like. It is likely he has 3 spades.
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Posted 2009-September-01, 05:44

cnszsun, on Aug 31 2009, 08:14 AM, said:

Scoring: IMP

1♥-3♣-ps-ps
dbl-ps-??


edit: sry, partner's initial bid is 1♥, not 1♠.

I try 3♠ now
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Posted 2009-September-01, 07:24

4 ♠, I like the majors and the shape.
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Posted 2009-September-01, 07:37

Hell 4♠ now again, I still expect partner with singleton club and AKAK.
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Posted 2009-September-01, 16:26

Still 4♠, but not as much of a LOL :)
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Posted 2009-September-01, 16:43

try 4 ♠ too but liked the first problem better :(
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Posted 2009-September-01, 17:31

It's not clear how many spades to bid, so I'd avoid the problem by passing the double. That's likely to bring in 500.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2009-September-01, 17:47

Pretty clear-cut pass IMO. Partner should be something like 4531 or 3631 with a decent-to-good hand. Total tricks argues for 15 total tricks with an adjustment down for secondary values.

What most are forgetting IMO is that with 4 clubs it will take a lot of trumps to ruff those losers - and partner only rates to have 3.
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Posted 2009-September-01, 18:07

Winstonm, on Sep 1 2009, 06:47 PM, said:

What most are forgetting IMO is that with 4 clubs it will take a lot of trumps to ruff those losers - and partner only rates to have 3.

We can't pitch them on partner's hearts? And where is RHO's entry if he has the expected AKJ-6th or 7th?

Passing could work out very poorly if the opponents have a side diamond fit and if thats the case, pard will certainly have 4 spades or 6 hearts.

Agree with 4♠.
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Posted 2009-September-01, 21:28

Close between 4♠ and pass, as it boils down to the number of spades partner has. If he has 4531 or 4540 or 4620 I want to be in 4♠ but if he has 3541 or 3631 or 3550 I want to defend. My re-opening doubles need not have extras but just shape so I guess now's the time where I wish they'd contain extras. But then I lose on the countless 3♣X penalties so I don't!
I think I will pass and take the money. If partner has extras then great it might go for 800 but 500 vs 620 isn't a big loss.
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