ACBL here, but interested in all:
True or false---An appellant may drop the case for most any reason, but neither an AC nor a director is allowed to fail to act based on the fact that a change would not affect the standings, nor can a director properly state that he will first see whether an adjustment will have any effect before choosing whether to adjust a score. I know it happens at the club level, just wondering whether it is ok to do that.
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Dropping it
#2
Posted 2009-August-30, 17:31
True - except that some jurisdictions do not allow you to drop appeals, especially at World level.
David Stevenson
Merseyside England UK
EBL TD
Currently at home
Visiting IBLF from time to time
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Merseyside England UK
EBL TD
Currently at home
Visiting IBLF from time to time
<webjak666@gmail.com>
#3
Posted 2009-August-30, 18:10
Related question:
Suppose that a committee is deciding whether to rule an appeal to be without substantial merit. In some jurisdictions this involves refusing to return the fee paid by the appealing side. When the committee is making this decision, should the possible effect on the standings be considered?
In an extreme case, suppose that the appeal actually reverses the director's table decision. Can the appeal still be ruled without merit if it has no effect on the results/standings of the event in question, and the appealing side could reasonably have known this when filing the appeal?
Suppose that a committee is deciding whether to rule an appeal to be without substantial merit. In some jurisdictions this involves refusing to return the fee paid by the appealing side. When the committee is making this decision, should the possible effect on the standings be considered?
In an extreme case, suppose that the appeal actually reverses the director's table decision. Can the appeal still be ruled without merit if it has no effect on the results/standings of the event in question, and the appealing side could reasonably have known this when filing the appeal?
Adam W. Meyerson
a.k.a. Appeal Without Merit
a.k.a. Appeal Without Merit
#4
Posted 2009-August-30, 20:00
I do not think the question whether the result of the appeal might affect the standings is any legal basis for a judgment of "appeal without merit", if that's what you're asking.
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#5
Posted 2009-August-31, 00:11
aguahombre, on Aug 30 2009, 05:28 PM, said:
True or false ...
True - except that in high level German Tournaments you'll lose 1/3 of your deposit, if you drop an appeal after filing it.
But it's an (universal) right of every contestant to appeal a TD's decision at his own table (see Law 92 A) - without any conditions or restrictions.
Re related question: No, the AC should (IMO must) not consider the effect on the overall standings. It's only the effect on the appeallants' (or their opponents') score on this board / incident that matters.
#6
Posted 2009-September-01, 08:24
The AC should not know what effect their decisions have.
David Stevenson
Merseyside England UK
EBL TD
Currently at home
Visiting IBLF from time to time
<webjak666@gmail.com>
Merseyside England UK
EBL TD
Currently at home
Visiting IBLF from time to time
<webjak666@gmail.com>
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