[quiddity]

Scoring: IMP

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1S-(2D)-?

This hand comes in the 4th quarter of a team match, with our team ahead by 12 IMPS with 12 boards to play. The opponents have been very conservative in their slam bidding, missing a laydown grand and a couple of good slams in the earlier quarters. Agreements here: 4C is a fit jump, 5C is to play, spade jumps are preemptive. What's your bid?

Second question: if you make a 4C fit jump, LHO doubles (alerted as a "good" diamond raise), partner bids 4S, and RHO bids 5D. What's your followup strategy if partner's 4S showed extra offense, and what would be your strategy if you weren't sure what 4S showed? If the opponents continue with diamonds, when do you start passing?

[Phil]

4♣ is perfect and I would bid 5 over 5 here with 6 trump. Over 6♦, I'll leave the decision to partner.

It might be right to pass 5♦, and you need to discuss if this is forcing or not.

[aguahombre]

Phil, on Aug 17 2009, 02:19 PM, said:

4♣ is perfect and I would bid 5 over 5 here with 6 trump. Over 6♦, I'll leave the decision to partner.

It might be right to pass 5♦, and you need to discuss if this is forcing or not.

agree with all the other things, except that 4C was perfect HERE Here, it gave the opponents more room and more ways of showing varies degress of diamond support. Doesn't make the fit-showing bid wrong --just not perfect.

[Codo]

I had bid 4 ♦ and regretted it.
I would compete up to 5 spade, be well aware that they may even make 6 Diamond.

[Fluffy]

agree wih Phil

[WesleyC]

I like Phil's plan here also.

[rd6789]

If ever there was a hand that called for imagination it's this one - 2 ♥ - muddy the waters

I am going to play the hand whatever happens.. big fit, play the hand,

btw partner can't judge this one unless your fit jumps are always 56 !

[quiddity]

Scoring: IMP

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1S 2D 4C X!
4S 5D 5S P
P 6D P P
P

This was not a success because at the other table the auction was 1S-(2D)-5S-X, passed out.

[ONEferBRID]

With NO key cards, 5♠ seems "perfect":

1♠ - ( 2♦ ) - 5♠

[P_Marlowe]

4C.

If 4S showed add. oenfense I would bid 5S, if I dont know
it, I would pass.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[rd6789]

well I did say big fit, play the hand - I think 6♠ is clear at teams (I really don't care what partner's clubs are do I?)

[the hog]

ONEferBRID, on Aug 19 2009, 02:15 AM, said:

With NO key cards, 5♠ seems "perfect":

1♠ - ( 2♦ ) - 5♠

Yeah sure! 5S generally means bid 6 if you have good S.

[rd6789]

Yeah I like 5♠ - much better than 4♣ But I think on this hand it is not about consulting partner - how can he/she imagine you have such a distirbution - you must take control of the hand - if you bid 5♠ and they bid a slam I am bidding 6 on my own not waiting for partner

[ArtK78]

The 4♣ bid is appealing, except that it gives the opponents the freedom to act a level lower. I would have bid 4♠ immediately.

I would keep bidding through 6♠. For me, the problem comes at the seven level. Generally speaking, at IMPs, it is always right to bid one more than you think is necessary when both sides have big fits. The bridge literature is filled with hands where it is right to bid one more. And the penalty for bidding one too many on these types of hands is far less than the penalty for not bidding enough.

I don't agree with the 5♠ bid at the other table, although it worked well.

[rd6789]

ArtK78, on Aug 19 2009, 09:23 AM, said:

The 4♣ bid is appealing

if you're going to keep bidding through 6♠ (which I agree with) why bother with 4♣ - I think it's only appeal is to wheel out a gadget - but that gadget is inappropraite with this hand

4♠ here would show a 10-card fit but you have an 11-card fit so 5♠ does not seem unreasonable

[gwnn]

i don't like fit jumps that much when partner opened 1♠. I think I'd bid 4 and 5 spades then pass. a 4♣ fit jump here I think should be either 4-5 or 5-6 in the blacks.

[benlessard]

5S for me is preempt here. Especially W vs red. The problem is that competent opps will find any excuse to bid 6 as a semi-bluff. Still 5S should be your first option.

I find 4C awful. Its more likely to help the opponent then to help your partner. Add to that that it allow them to X, bid 4D,4H,4S.

Also if you lead your stiff H they have no chance to go wrong now. Against a 6D contract if opps managed to show a spade void a H lead from Hxx is normal.


a 3Nt psych has limited chance to work but its a freeroll situation so i like it.
2H might also work but i prefer 3Nt.

Pass and sac against every contract also make sense especially if youre not willing to bring back -1400. With a 12 imps lead its probaly the best strategy.

[Winstonm]

2S. After all, I only have 6 points.

[Fluffy]

yay winstonm you are the man

[pooltuna]

In the original auction I go for the weird 4♦ splinter