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#21 User is offline   pooltuna 

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Posted 2009-August-18, 11:49

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Posted 2009-August-18, 12:18

Coelacanth, on Aug 17 2009, 09:20 AM, said:

I'm interested in people's opinion of the final double in this sequence:

P - (P) - 1 - (2)
X - (3) - X

First double was negative. This pair does not play responsive doubles (not that this double would qualify as one anyway).

If it matters, this is matchpoints, with the spade bidder NV against V.

Absent any special agreement, what hand type would you expect for this double?

The 2nd DBL is Competitive.

Richard Pavlicek's conditions for such are:
--Partner must have (previously) acted
--Your side has not established a fit
--Your side has not bid notrump
--You did not pass the doubled suit at your last turn
--A forcing action does not exist

After the Competitive DBL:
"Partner of the competitive doubler should choose the contract from the alternatives suggested by the previous bidding. Any nonjump bid (even a new suit) is nonforcing; jumps below game are invitational. Passing the double is a real possibility, requiring a suitable defensive hand with 4 trumps, or 3 trumps at the 3 level. "
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Posted 2009-August-18, 13:23

Phil, on Aug 19 2009, 05:37 AM, said:

Fluffy, on Aug 18 2009, 09:16 AM, said:

5-x-6-X (takeout, penalty)

I think at 6 clubs it is finally penalty, but some might argue that this is at 7 :P

In one partnership, we play responsive doubles through 7.

It hasn't come up yet.

But I suppose you have had the hand where they bid 7 and you wished you were playing responsive. ;)
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Posted 2009-August-18, 15:07

Phil, on Aug 18 2009, 05:37 PM, said:

Fluffy, on Aug 18 2009, 09:16 AM, said:

5-x-6-X (takeout, penalty)

I think at 6 clubs it is finally penalty, but some might argue that this is at 7 ;)

In one partnership, we play responsive doubles through 7.

It hasn't come up yet.

me too, it is not only for the level, but because this is the 6th double so far, what are we asking for? :P
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Posted 2009-August-18, 15:39

With Csaba I agreed to play negative double through 7 and sometimes 7:

1-(7)-x is penalty, but
1m-(7)-x is t/o.
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Posted 2009-August-18, 16:07

helene_t, on Aug 19 2009, 09:39 AM, said:

1m-(7)-x is t/o.

Do you require tolerance for partner's minor?
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