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style of overcalling IV Two-level overcall after 1M

Poll: What are your minimum requirements? (17 member(s) have cast votes)

What are your minimum requirements?

  1. A good 6-card suit. Standard constructive Style (2 votes [11.76%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.76%

  2. Any 5-card suit with above average strength (includes 5332) (4 votes [23.53%])

    Percentage of vote: 23.53%

  3. Any 5-card suit with above average strength + any shortness (2 votes [11.76%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.76%

  4. Any 5-card suit with above average strength + shortness in M (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. A good 5-card suit is my main criteria (lead-directing) regardless (7 votes [41.18%])

    Percentage of vote: 41.18%

  6. A good 5-card suit + any shortness (2 votes [11.76%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.76%

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#1 User is offline   vincit 

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Posted 2009-August-15, 21:51

The picture


1) Advantage/disadvantage
What are the pros and cons of entering the auction with a 5-Card suit immediately?
Destructive/constructive + occupying space + nuisance

2) Perception of the risk
What is the expentancy of a fit when you interfere with 5 cards vs 6-card

3) Key factors worth considering when overcalling with a 5-card suit
Strength (controls) + Shortness (any?) + Suit quality (is it?) + Pattern (5332?)
Special treatment with the Heart suit?

What do you think ?
If you considering it is a no-no why ?

Note : It seems to me that playing tranfers in the second seat would solve many issues here and bring leeway (misfit) and flexibility (constructive)
What is your call?
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Posted 2009-August-15, 22:25

There are a number of hands where I would overcall on a five-card suit. Generally these have the following properties:

(1) Not suitable for a takeout double, so certainly not a singleton or void in opener's suit.
(2) Not suitable for a 1NT overcall.
(3) Extra values (normally 14+).
(4) A decent suit.

With a six-card suit I overcall pretty freely with a wide range of hands.
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Posted 2009-August-15, 22:55

vincit, on Aug 15 2009, 10:51 PM, said:

The picture


1) Advantage/disadvantage
What are the pros and cons of entering the auction with a 5-Card suit immediately?
Destructive/constructive + occupying space + nuisance

2) Perception of the risk
What is the expentancy of a fit when you interfere with 5 cards vs 6-card

3) Key factors worth considering when overcalling with a 5-card suit
Strength (controls) + Shortness (any?) + Suit quality (is it?) + Pattern (5332?)
Special treatment with the Heart suit?

What do you think ?
If you considering it is a no-no why ?

Note : It seems to me that playing tranfers in the second seat would solve many issues here and bring leeway (misfit) and flexibility (constructive)
What is your call?

I did not vote because it is a judgment call. Much depends if it is MPs or IMPs, what the vulnerability is, is partner a passed or unpassed hand, how many cards I have in their opening suit, how good my suit is, am I expecting partner to be the opening leader, is my suit a major or a minor, do I have an alternate place to play or decent support for other suits if they double us for penalty OR a good enough suit and hand that I can survive a Dbl, and so on. Occupying space is a consideration but typically not after they open 1M, only when they opened 1D and my suit is clubs.

If you give the conditions and some example hands, then voting is simpler.
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Posted 2009-August-15, 22:58

awm, on Aug 15 2009, 11:25 PM, said:

There are a number of hands where I would overcall on a five-card suit. Generally these have the following properties:

(1) Not suitable for a takeout double, so certainly not a singleton or void in opener's suit.
(2) Not suitable for a 1NT overcall.
(3) Extra values (normally 14+).
(4) A decent suit.

With a six-card suit I overcall pretty freely with a wide range of hands.

interesting.. I agree but answered the poll with the number two choice. Maybe you didnt vote.
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