[kes]

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Malex "Major's Length Exact" bridge bidding system
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The system separates in the opening bids (and in most continuations) the 4= / 5= / 6+ lengths
of the majors , with spezial treatments for hands with both majors and for hands with 4333 .
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Often used : 2C with 5= hearts / 2D with 5= spades / 2H with 6+ hearts / 2S with 6+ spades
and 0-3 in the other major (and analogical at level 3)
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Part 1 - the opening bids
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1C - each hand with 14+ P , some hands with 13 P (see beneath)
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1D - with 9-13 P , 4+ hearts and 4+ spades
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1H - with 9-13 P , 4= spades (and 0-3 hearts) and 4+ cards in a minor
1S - with 9-13 P , 4= hearts (and 0-3 spades) and 4+ cards in a minor
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With 4333 , 4= major - pass up to 12 P , bid 1C with 13= P
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2C - with 9-13 P , 5= hearts (and 0-3 spades)
2D - with 9-13 P , 5= spades (and 0-3 hearts)
2H - with 9-13 P , 6+ hearts (and 0-3 spades)
2S - with 9-13 P , 6+ spades (and 0-3 hearts)
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1N - with 11-13 P , no 4 card major , not 4333
2N - with 11-13 P , 55+ minors or 4= diamonds and 5= clubs , not 22.4=5=
3m - with 11-13 P , 6+ cards , not 6322 , no 4 card major
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With 4333 , 4= minor (and with 31.5=4=) pass up to 12 P , bid 1C with 13= P
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Notice 1 : When they open - you can often use the opening bids
(1m) - double stolen bid (and / or strong) - 1N with 5+ other minor - other bids as own opening
(1M) - double stolen bid (or strong) - 1N with both minors - other bids natural
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Notice 1 : When they intervene after our 1C (simple version)
Double / redouble / cuebid / jump bid forcing - other bids natural , non-forcing
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Notice 3 : Slam bidding (simple version) :
Looking for Fit - ask for strength , answer in steps - ask for controlls
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Part 2 - after opening 1C (- each hand with 14+ P , some hands with 13 P)
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1C 1D - each Hand with 0- 7 P
1C 1H - each Hand with 8-10 P
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1C 1S - with 11+ P , 4+ hearts and 4+ spades
1C 1N - with 11+ P , no 5+ major (may be unbalanced)
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1C 2C - with 11+ P , 5= hearts (and 0-3 spades)
1C 2D - with 11+ P , 5= spades (and 0-3 hearts)
1C 2H - with 11+ P , 6+ hearts (and 0-3 spades)
1C 2S - with 11+ P , 6+ spades (and 0-3 hearts)
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Continuations in parts 13-20 at the end
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Part 3 - after opening 1D (- with 9-13 P , 4+ hearts and 4+ spades)
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1D 1M (with 3=) / 2M / 3M (barrage) / 4M - all to play
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1D PS (or 2D) - weak with diamonds
1D 2C - weak with clubs
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1D 1N - ask for distribution in the majors - no specific bids for 6 & 5 and 7 & 4
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1D 1N 2C - with 4= hearts and 4= spades
1D 1N 2D - with 5+ hearts and 5+ spades
1D 1N 2H - with 5= hearts and 4= spades
1D 1N 2S - with 4= hearts and 5= spades
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1D 1N 2XY 2N - with 12-13 P , no fit in a major
1D 1N 2XY 3C - asks for strength , heart-fit assumed - 3 steps
1D 1N 2XY 3D - asks for strength , spade-fit assured - 3 steps
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1D 1N 3C - with 6= hearts and 4= spades , not minimum
1D 1N 3D - with 4= hearts and 6= spades , not minimum
1D 1N 3H - with 6= hearts and 4= spades , minimum
1D 1N 3S - with 6= hearts and 4= spades , minimum
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Part 4 - after opening 1H (- with 9-13 P , 4= spades (and 0-3 hearts) and 4+ in a minor)
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1H 1S (with 3= spades) / 2S / 3S (barrage) / 4S - all of them to play
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1H 1S 1N - with 4=1=4=4=
1H 1S 2m - with (4= spades and) 5+ in this minor
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1H PS - weak with hearts , not 3 spades
1H 2m - weak with 5+ cards in this minor
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1H 1N - forcing to 2m (opener has a 4+ minor)
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1H 1N 2m PS - to play
1H 1N 2m 2H - inviting (to 4H) with 5= hearts
1H 1N 2m 2S - inviting (to 4S) with 4+ spades
1H 1N 2m 2N - inviting (to 3N) with about 12 P
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1H 2H - inviting (to 4H) with 6+ hearts
1H 2N - inviting (to 3N) with about 13 P
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1H 3C - SlamTry , in spades or in no-trump - asks for strength , 3 steps
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1H 3D - game-forcing with 5= hearts , with Fit PFA (principle of fast arrival)
1H 3H - game-forcing with 6+ hearts , with Fit PFA
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Part 5 - after opening 1S (- with 9-13 P , 4= hearts (and 0-3 spades) and 4+ in a minor)
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1S 2H (with 3+ hearts , 3= only if 4=3=.42) / 3H (barrage) / 4H - all to play
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1S PS - weak with spades
1S 2m - weak with 5+ cards in this minor
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1S 1N - forcing to 2m (opener has a 4+ minor)
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1S 1N 2m PS - to play
1S 1N 2m 2H - inviting (to 4H) with 4+ hearts
1S 1N 2m 2S - inviting (to 4S) with 5= spades
1S 1N 2m 2N - inviting (to 3N) with about 12 P
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1S 2S - inviting (to 4S) with 6+ spades
1S 2N - inviting (to 3N) with about 13 P
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1S 3C - SlamTry , in hearts or in no-trump - asks for strength , 3 steps
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1S 3D - game-forcing with 5= spades , with Fit PFA
1S 3S - game-forcing with 6+ spades , with Fit PFA
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Part 6 - after opening 2C - with 9-13 P , 5= hearts (and 0-3 spades)
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2C 2H (with 2+ hearts) / 3H (barrage) / 4H - all to play
2C PS / 2D / 2S - weak with 5+ cards , not 3 hearts
2C 2N - with 12-13 P , no Fit in hearts
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2C 3C - game / slam try with fit in hearts (rarely slamtry in notrump) - asks for strength , 3 steps
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2C 3D - game-forcing with 5= spades , with Fit PFA
2C 3S - game-forcing with 6+ spades , with Fit PFA
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Part 7 - after opening 2D - with 9-13 P , 5= spades (and 0-3 hearts)
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2D 2S (with 2+ spades) / 3S (barrage) / 4S - all to play
2D PS / 2H - weak with 5+ cards , not 3 spades
2D 2N - with 12-13 P , no Fit in spades
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2D 3C - game / slam try with fit in spades (rarely slamtry in notrump) - asks for strength , 3 steps
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2D 3D - game-forcing with 5= hearts , with Fit PFA
2D 3S - game-forcing with 6+ hearts , with Fit PFA
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Part 8 - after opening 2H - with 9-13 P , 6+ hearts (and 0-3 spades)
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2H PS / 3H (barrage) / 4H - all to play
2H 2N - with 12-13 P , no Fit in hearts
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2H 3C - game / slam try with fit in hearts (rarely slamtry in notrump) - asks for strength , 3 steps
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2H 3D - game-forcing with 5= spades , with Fit PFA
2H 3S - game-forcing with 6+ spades , with Fit PFA
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Part 9 - after opening 2S - with 9-13 P , 6+ spades (and 0-3 hearts)
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2S PS / 3S (barrage) / 4S - all to play
2S 2N - with 12-13 P , no Fit in spades
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2S 3C - game / slam try with fit in spades (rarely slamtry in notrump) - asks for strength , 3 steps
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2S 3D - game-forcing with 5= hearts , with Fit PFA
2S 3H - game-forcing with 6+ hearts , with Fit PFA
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Part 10 - after opening 1N (- with 11-13 P , no 4 card major , not 4333)
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1N 2C - escape , weak (with 2+ clubs)
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1N 2C PS - with 5-6 clubs
1N 2C 2D - otherwise (opener has 4+ diamonds) - partner bids naturally
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1N 2D - inviting (or slamtry) with 5+ hearts , may be also 5 spades
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1N 2D 2H - with minimum , 2= hearts
1N 2D 3H - with minimum , 3= hearts
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1N 2D 3S - with maximum , 2= hearts and 3= spades
1N 2D 3N - with maximum , 2= hearts and 2= spades
1N 2D 4H - with maximum , 3= hearts
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1N 2H - inviting (or slamtry) with 5+ spades , not 5 hearts
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1N 2D 2S - with minimum , 2= spades
1N 2D 3S - with minimum , 3= spades
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1N 2D 3N - with maximum , 2= spades
1N 2D 4S - with maximum , 3= spades
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1N 2S - inviting with 12 P or Slamtry
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1N 2S 2N (or 3m) - with minimum
1N 2S 3N - with maximun
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1N 2N - inviting with 13 P
1N 3m - barrage
1N 3M - game-forcing
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Part 11 - after opening 2N (- with 11-13 P , 4+ diamonds and 5+ clubs , not 22.4=5=)
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2N 3m - to play
2N 3M - game-forcing , with 5+ cards
2N 4m - slam-try in this minor (or no-trump)
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Part 12 - after opening 3m (- with 11-13 P and 6+ cards , not 6322)
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3m PS - to play
3m 3M - game-forcing , with 5+ cards
3m 4C - slam-try
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Part 13 - after 1C 1D (- each hand with 0-7 P)
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1C 1D PS - with 5+ diamonds , no interest in game
1C 1D 1M - with 4+ cards , no interest in game
1C 1D 1N - no interest in game
1C 1D 2C - with 5+ clubs , no interest in game
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1C 1D 2D - with 21+ P
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1C 1D 2D 2H - each Hand with 0-3 P
1C 1D 2D 2S - each Hand with 4-6 P
1C 1D 2D 2N - with 7 P , no 5+ major (may be unbalanced)
1C 1D 2D 3C - with 7 P , 5= hearts
1C 1D 2D 3D - with 7 P , 5= spades
1C 1D 2D 3H - with 7 P , 6+ hearts
1C 1D 2D 3S - with 7 P , 6+ spades
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1C 1D 2H - with 16-18 P , 5+ hearts
1C 1D 2S - with 16-18 P , 5+ spades
1C 1D 2N - with 19-20 P , no 5+ major (may be unbalanced)
1C 1D 3C - with 19-20 P , 5= hearts
1C 1D 3D - with 19-20 P , 5= spades
1C 1D 3H - with 19-20 P , 6+ hearts
1C 1D 3S - with 19-20 P , 6+ spades
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Part 14 - after 1C 1H (- each hand with 8-10 P)
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1C 1H 1S - asking for min / max
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1C 1H 1S 1N - min , no 5+ major (may be unbalanced)
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1C 1H 1S 2C - min , 5= hearts
1C 1H 1S 2D - min , 5= spades
1C 1H 1S 2H - min , 6+ hearts
1C 1H 1S 2S - min , 6+ spades
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1C 1H 1S 2N - max , no 5+ major (may be unbalanced)
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1C 1H 1S 3C - max , 5= hearts
1C 1H 1S 3D - max , 5= spades
1C 1H 1S 3H - max , 6+ hearts
1C 1H 1S 3S - max , 6+ spades
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1C 1H 1N - with 13= P (and 4333 or 31.5=4=)
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1C 1H 2C - with 5= hearts , no interest in game (except for good Fit)
1C 1H 2D - with 5= spades , no interest in game (except for good Fit)
1C 1H 2H - with 6+ hearts , no interest in game (except for good Fit)
1C 1H 2S - with 6+ spades , no interest in game (except for good Fit)
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1C 1H 2N - no 5+ major (may be unbalanced) , game-forcing
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1C 1H 2N 3C - Stayman
1C 1H 2N 3D - with an (unknown) 5= major
1C 1H 2N 3M - with 6+ cards
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1C 1H 3C - with 5= hearts , game-forcing
1C 1H 3D - with 5= spades , game-forcing
1C 1H 3H - with 6+ hearts , game-forcing
1C 1H 3S - with 6+ spades , game-forcing
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Part 15 - after 1C 1S (- with 11+ P , 4+ hearts and 4+ spades)
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1C 1S - 1N asks for distribution in majors - no specific bids for 6&5 and 7&4
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1C 1S 1N 2C - with 4= spades and 4= hearts
1C 1S 1N 2D - with 5= spades and 5= hearts
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1C 1S 1N 2H - with 4= spades and 5= hearts
1C 1S 1N 2S - with 5= spades and 4= hearts
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1C 1S 1N 3C - with 4= spades and 6= hearts
1C 1S 1N 3D - with 6= spades and 4= hearts
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Opener asks with the next free bid for strength - step 1 with 11 P and +1 step / 2 P
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Part 16 - after 1C 1N (- with 11+ P , no 5+ major (may be unbalanced))
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1C 1N 2C - Stayman
1C 1N 2D - with an (unknown) 5= major
1C 1N 2M - with 6+ cards
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Opener asks with the next free bid for strength - step 1 with 11 P and +1 step / 2 P
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1C 1N 2N - asks for strength
1C 1N 3N - with 13= P (and 4333 or 31.5=4=)
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Part 17 - after 1C 2C (- with 11+ P , 5= hearts (and 0-3 spades))
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1C 2C 2H - with fit in hearts , asks for strength
1C 2C 2N - no interest in majors , asks for strenth
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1C 2C 2D - with 5= spades , no fit in hearts
1C 2C 2S - with 6+ spades , no fit in hearts
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Opener asks with the next free bid for strength - step 1 with 11 P and +1 step / 2 P
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Part 18 - after 1C 2D (- with 11+ P , 5= spades (and 0-3 hearts))
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1C 2D 2S - with Fit in spades , asks for strength
1C 2D 2N - no interest in majors , asks for strength
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1C 2D 2H - with 6+ hearts , no fit in spades
1C 2D 3D - with 5= hearts , no fit in spades
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Opener asks with the next free bid for strength - step 1 with 11 P and +1 step / 2 P
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Part 19 - after 1C 2H (- with 11+ P , 6+ hearts (and 0-3 spades))
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1C 2H 3C - with fit in hearts , asks for strength
1C 2H 2N - no interest in majors , asks for strength
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1C 2H 2S - with 6+ spades , no fit in hearts
1C 2H 3D - with 5= spades , no fit in hearts
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Part 20 - after 1C 2S (- with 11+ P , 6+ spades (and 0-3 hearts))
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1C 2S 3C - with Fit in spades , asks for strength
1C 2S 2N - no interest in majors , asks for strength
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1C 2S 3D - with 5= hearts , no fit in spades
1C 2S 3H - with 6+ hearts , no fit in spades
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Opener asks with the next free bid for strength - step 1 with 11 P and +1 step / 2 P
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[Tcyk]

I always appreciate being able to look at new ideas for bidding. I didn't have time to seriously examine the system but I wonder ...

When I open 1C, suit lengths are undefined like a Precision Club opening but weaker.

I can not open with a good minor suit unless I have 14+ high card points. This may be okay at IMPs but could really hurt you at MPs.

Are opening requirements in third and fourth position the same as first and second position? Games could be easily missed if they are.

Wont failure to show a major suit aid your opponents in finding major suit fits? Showing a major virtually guarantees shortness (not more than three cards) in the other major. This will help the opponents also.

If you like systems like this, why not just play Crimson Death or the more disciplined Dwururka or Moscito? Diamond-Major seems to be a nice major suit oriented system. Rebids can define suit lengths to a great extent.

[helene_t]

Tcyk, on Aug 17 2009, 09:57 AM, said:

I can not open with a good minor suit unless I have 14+ high card points.

Yes unless you have a 4333 you can open. 3m with a good 5-card suit and shortness, otherwise 1NT.

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Wont failure to show a major suit aid your opponents in finding major suit fits? Showing a major virtually guarantees shortness (not more than three cards) in the other major. This will help the opponents also.

I wouldn't be too worried about that. That you have a t most three cards in a suit doesn't tell opps that they have a fit. It does help partner, though.

[gwnn]

This is not the first time that you post this system here, but it still looks like a system that only works on a piece of paper and a pen but not at the bridge table.

[hrothgar]

I will note in passing:

The ACBL's Conventions Committee just denying a suggested defense for a 1♦ bid shoing 5+ Hearts.

In an attempt to improve the consistency of their processes, the same committee just rescinded license for the existing (approved) defense for a 1♥ opening showing 5+ Spades.

Regretfully, it appears that they ACBL believes that players competing at the "elite" ranks are too stupid and/or lazy to be able to cope with such insidious methods.

[Free]

hrothgar, on Aug 17 2009, 02:39 PM, said:

I will note in passing:

The ACBL's Conventions Committee just denying a suggested defense for a 1♦ bid shoing 5+ Hearts.

In an attempt to improve the consistency of their processes, the same committee just rescinded license for the existing (approved) defense for a 1♥ opening showing 5+ Spades.

Regretfully, it appears that they ACBL believes that players competing at the "elite" ranks are too stupid and/or lazy to be able to cope with such insidious methods.

Ofcourse Richard, you can't penalize them in 1♥ anymore

[kes]

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Tcyk wrote :
I can not open with a good minor unless i have 14+ HCP.
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NO - as helene_t told (thank you Dear).
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Tcyk wrote :
Are opening requirements in third and forth position the same as first and second position ?
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YES - a changing is not possible in this version (see the handling of the 4333 hands)
and it is not nessesary (we have experienced in an older version with 4333 at 1N).
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Tcyk wrote :
Wont failore to show a major suit aid your major …
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YES - it's a pity , but each information , you give to your pardner , is open to the opponents too.
BUT - therefore you should give in your bidding only the real important information.
Par example the exact lenth of your major(s) - that is why Malex was born.
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Tcyk wrote :
If you like systems like this , why not just play …
Rebids can define suit lengths to a great extent.
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YES - and the rebids are the problem , obviously if the opponents intervene.
But even in an undisturbed auction , it is better to know the exact lenth at once.
The rebids can be used for other investigations (strength , second suit).
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gwnn wrote :
This is not the first time that you post this system here …
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The opening bids : YES - The system : NO .
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gwnn wrote :
… but it still looks like a system that only works on a piece of paper and a pen ,
but not at the bridge table.
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Au contraire : It works very well at the bridge table , it is tested since 5 years.
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[kes]

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As TcyK and helene_t are mistaken in opening without 4 card major , i repeat this part of the system
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1N - with 11-13 P , no 4 card major , not 4333
2N - with 11-13 P , 55+ minors or 4= diamonds and 5= clubs , not 22.4=5=
3m - with 11-13 P , 6+ cards , not 6322 , no 4 card major
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With 4333 , 4= minor (and with 31.5=4=) pass up to 12 P , bid 1C with 13= P
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