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#1 User is offline   Echognome 

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Posted 2009-August-11, 02:01

Scoring: IMP


(P) - P - (1NT) - 3♥;
(Dbl) - ?

1. Are you raising partner?

2. If you pass, it continues:

(P) - P - (1NT) - 3♥;
(Dbl) - P - (3S) - (P);
(4S) - ?

Do you double?

3. If you bid 4♥, it goes:

(P) - P - (1NT) - 3♥;
(Dbl) - 4♥ - (4S) - P;
(P) - ?

Do you double?
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Posted 2009-August-11, 03:30

I am raising partner to 4♥. When there is little chance of winning the contract the purpose of the raising is to show a top honor so that partner knows she can lead in the suit safely.

Call me a chicken but I don''t double in any of the cases. Dummy is void in ♥ after all. Where are the setting tricks going to come from?
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Posted 2009-August-11, 03:36

double!!!! (they will not make overtricks probably)

I would not raise but it is close.
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Posted 2009-August-11, 03:42

Yeah 4♥ support with support.

First case I double, second one not as they are more likely to run to 5♣.
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Posted 2009-August-11, 07:34

Echognome, on Aug 11 2009, 03:01 AM, said:

Scoring: IMP


(P) - P - (1NT) - 3♥;
(Dbl) - ?

1. Are you raising partner?

2. If you pass, it continues:

(P) - P - (1NT) - 3♥;
(Dbl) - P - (3S) - (P);
(4S) - ?

Do you double?

3. If you bid 4♥, it goes:

(P) - P - (1NT) - 3♥;
(Dbl) - 4♥ - (4S) - P;
(P) - ?

Do you double?

1) why not! 7♥ ought to be about right

2) No, partner looks like either the 53rd or 54th card in the deck.
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Posted 2009-August-11, 07:35

I would raise (hoping to make it). I would not double.
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Posted 2009-August-11, 18:08

Echognome, on Aug 11 2009, 03:01 AM, said:

Scoring: IMP


(P) - P - (1NT) - 3♥;
(Dbl) - ?
1. Are you raising partner?
2. If you pass, it continues:
(P) - P - (1NT) - 3♥;
(Dbl) - P - (3S) - (P);
(4S) - ?
Do you double?
3. If you bid 4♥, it goes:
(P) - P - (1NT) - 3♥;
(Dbl) - 4♥ - (4S) - P;
(P) - ?
Do you double?
IMO
  • Over 3♥ (X), raise to 4♥ = 10, _P = 4.
  • If you pass, then over 4♠, _X = 10, _P = 8. They have bid and supported ♠ so they are unlikely to run.
  • If you raise to 4♥, then over 4♠, _P = 10, _X = 8. They may be able to make game or slam in ♣ but, now, _X may be the gypsy's warning.

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Posted 2009-August-12, 01:29

I would pass and double.
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Posted 2009-August-12, 02:08

#1 4H
#2 X
#3 X

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Posted 2009-August-12, 06:19

I wouldn't bid 4♥ opposite me.

I wouldn't double in any auction, partly because they may be in a 4-3 fit and the double might persuade them to run, but mainly because I don't have enough defence.
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Posted 2009-August-14, 05:35

I don't understand not raising. Why not? Please explain, I really don't get it.

I would most likely not double, but I'm not very brave in that department.
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