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#1 User is offline   Jlall 

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Posted 2009-August-10, 13:59

xx --- AQx AJT9xxxx

w/w imps, starting with pard:

P 1H 2C 2S
P 3S 4C 4S
P P ?

Do you agree with your previous bidding? What now?
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Posted 2009-August-10, 14:32

Double.

It's probably not lead directing though I'm happy if partner thinks it is. Pass would be ok but I think they will go down 2-3 tricks more often than they make. Partner would almost certainly have bid 5 when we belong there and sometimes when we don't.

The previous bidding is fine.
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Posted 2009-August-10, 14:35

I expect partner to get the lead right if we double, and that trick might be necessary to set. I'm doubling. If pard's got zilch with two clubs, maybe he'll run.
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Posted 2009-August-10, 15:22

Would have bid 5 over 1.

Pass now, unclear that double would even ask for a heart lead, and it might not be necessary given how much length he's marked with. Moreover, that's still only three tricks.
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Posted 2009-August-10, 15:31

Pass. I don't think double is lead directing.
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Posted 2009-August-10, 15:34

Double.

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Posted 2009-August-10, 15:40

Echognome, on Aug 10 2009, 04:31 PM, said:

Pass. I don't think double is lead directing.

That was my first reaction too, but partner will look at many hearts, a few spades, and saw us making two non-forcing bids before we doubled 4S. I think he will work out why we think we can beat this.
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Posted 2009-August-10, 15:42

Well you may also have the agreement that double is "I want to sacrifice unless you don't think we should."

But I didn't want to assume any such agreements.

Note that I understand people are saying that double is just a strange enough bid that partner will work out what we think it means.
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Posted 2009-August-10, 16:17

Double. Partner should lead a heart, he's supposed to have MANY. We'll take it from there.

 wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the 3.


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Posted 2009-August-10, 18:26

I suspect I am the minority here and I could be wrong; I choose pass.

1. There is no guarantee that a heart lead will be the setting trick. We could easily be ruffing declarer's natural losers in the suit.
2. As far as I can see, a diamond lead could be equally effective. If partner is really weak, this could be the only time he gets to lead thru dummy's strength
3. My biggest worry is that opponents can redouble. 4Sxx = is not a nice score compared to 4S +1 at the other table
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Posted 2009-August-10, 20:08

Didn't we already anticipate this when our 4C pushed them? Do what you decided to do if they predictably went 4S. I planned double.
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Posted 2009-August-11, 00:43

I prefer an immediate 5C over 1H.

Now I pass. Without agreements, It's not clear that double is lead directing. I'd double with 0247 to suggest further competition.
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Posted 2009-August-11, 02:48

I would had bid 5 earlier, now I pass.
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Posted 2009-August-11, 03:29

I also would've bid 5 earlier. Now I'd Double.
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Posted 2009-August-11, 04:21

I agree with karlson and all the others who pass now but would have bid 5 instead of 4.
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Posted 2009-August-11, 04:48

Imo double is clearly lead directing.

You dont double at imps hoping for -1.

On this bidding its impossible that the X show a hand that is hoping for -2.


I slightly prefer X to bidding 5C, but i would never just pass.

If you dont plan to X then you should have bid 5C not 4.
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Posted 2009-August-11, 08:26

Jlall, on Aug 10 2009, 02:59 PM, said:

xx --- AQx AJT9xxxx

w/w imps, starting with pard:

P 1H 2C 2S
P 3S 4C 4S
P P ?

Do you agree with your previous bidding? What now?

With a passed partner our chances for game are relatively low so I might have started with 4 to maximize the opps guessing. I am passing and hope I figure out which is best to lead
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Posted 2009-August-11, 13:13

pooltuna, on Aug 11 2009, 04:26 PM, said:

Jlall, on Aug 10 2009, 02:59 PM, said:

xx --- AQx AJT9xxxx

w/w imps, starting with pard:

P 1H 2C 2S
P 3S 4C 4S
P P ?

Do you agree with your previous bidding? What now?

With a passed partner our chances for game are relatively low so I might have started with 4 to maximize the opps guessing. I am passing and hope I figure out which is best to lead

LHO bid spades first, you're partner is on lead.
I'm doubling now, my partners make good leads.
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Posted 2009-August-11, 13:16

I doubled. Most people I gave this hand to overcalled 5C, but if they didn't they bid 2C, 4C, X. I think you are a strong favorite to beat this on a heart lead, RHO made a NF 3S bid, and LHO didn't try for slam. You might well beat them 2 or something.

On this day you get lucky and beat them 3, partner having a stiff club and clubs 2-2.
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Posted 2009-August-11, 17:19

Jlall, on Aug 10 2009, 02:59 PM, said:

xx --- AQx AJT9xxxx
w/w imps, starting with pard:
P 1H 2C 2S
P 3S 4C 4S
P P ?
Do you agree with your previous bidding? What now?
IMO JLall deserved his triumph :)
  • Agree with previous bidding 2 = 10, _X = 9, 5 = 8
  • Now, _X =10, 5 = 4. Partner is likely to read your message even if you haven't agreed Lightner doubles of games.

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