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Poll: Would you act again - Please give reason (42 member(s) have cast votes)

Would you act again - Please give reason

  1. Yes (34 votes [80.95%])

    Percentage of vote: 80.95%

  2. No (8 votes [19.05%])

    Percentage of vote: 19.05%

  3. Don't know (0 votes [0.00%])

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#1 User is offline   jakob_r 

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Posted 2009-August-07, 05:17

Scoring: MP

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Posted 2009-August-07, 05:35

Isn't the 1 bid a classic psychic bid situation? A double again should expose it.
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Posted 2009-August-07, 05:59

I am not pleased with a t/o dble and would much prefer to over call in S. Now you have a mess you are not sure how to deal with it.
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Posted 2009-August-07, 06:21

Pass is a gamble, if we make 9 tricks in spades it will be +150 vs 140, but everything else its bad.

partner seems to have 5 or 6 hearts with few or no values, what contract should we play? 1NT, that's what I am trying. If partner happens to raise we might think about swtiching back to spades.
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Posted 2009-August-07, 07:04

I agree with Fluffy's 1NT. Passing could easily be right, but it's a big gamble that could lead to a quick 0.
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Posted 2009-August-07, 07:04

Agree with Gonzalo. I don't think double is psych-exposing. 3244 would be typical.
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Posted 2009-August-07, 08:02

I agree with the first double (too good for a 1 overcall) and I would double now also.

This is a penalty double by definition, not a takeout double with 3244 or the like. And when LHO [EDIT] runs, it will be clear that he was psyching. You cannot sit there and let the opps get away with a blatant psyche.

1NT might work, but it could easily result in your missing your best spot - spades.

If RHO runs to 2, I bid 2.
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Posted 2009-August-07, 08:08

If double could be taken as penalty I'd double. If not 1NT seems pretty fine.

 wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the 3.


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Posted 2009-August-07, 09:03

ArtK78, on Aug 7 2009, 09:02 AM, said:

I agree with the first double (too good for a 1 overcall) and I would double now also.

This is a penalty double by definition, not a takeout double with 3244 or the like.  And when RHO runs, it will be clear that he was psyching.  You cannot sit there and let the opps get away with a blatant psyche.

1NT might work, but it could easily result in your missing your best spot - spades.

If RHO runs to 2, I bid 2.

And all this alleged psyche exposing, and questionable follow-up because your singleton heart was an honor instead of an X. Too late to go back and overcall 1S, and whether the psyche is exposed or not, partner will not figure out your pattern or strength. By the way, I think you meant LHO, not RHO, might have psyched.
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Posted 2009-August-07, 09:35

aguahombre, on Aug 7 2009, 10:03 AM, said:

ArtK78, on Aug 7 2009, 09:02 AM, said:

I agree with the first double (too good for a 1 overcall) and I would double now also.

This is a penalty double by definition, not a takeout double with 3244 or the like.  And when RHO runs, it will be clear that he was psyching.  You cannot sit there and let the opps get away with a blatant psyche.

1NT might work, but it could easily result in your missing your best spot - spades.

If RHO runs to 2, I bid 2.

And all this alleged psyche exposing, and questionable follow-up because your singleton heart was an honor instead of an X. Too late to go back and overcall 1S, and whether the psyche is exposed or not, partner will not figure out your pattern or strength. By the way, I think you meant LHO, not RHO, might have psyched.

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Posted 2009-August-07, 09:48

2. I don't understand what the problem is. Clearly LHO psyched, and clearly this shows a strong hand with spades (since we would cuebid 2, double, bid NT, or bid a minor with other hands). Even if he has spades, do I really care?
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Posted 2009-August-07, 10:53

Double, penalties.
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Posted 2009-August-07, 11:01

2 natural for me. Just sticking to the plan of Double then bid .

Dbl would for me be another take-out (3145 sounds typical). Even if it were penalty, you are just complicating the auction for us and exposing the psyche. What would you bid after 4 p p after the Dbl? Now bid 4? Better bid right away.
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Posted 2009-August-07, 15:14

1NT, I think double is still takeout here, and this is a standard psych spot.
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Posted 2009-August-07, 15:57

2.

Showing a hand too good to overcall 1. Double does not expose the psyche clearly enough to enable partner to jump in spades with a weak suit and 2 is a more accurate description of my strength and spade suit.
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Posted 2009-August-07, 16:48

what's wrong with 2? Even if LHO didn't psych and partner drives to 4 on two small or something (which he will only rarely do), we will likely make it.
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Posted 2009-August-08, 04:54

2 I intended to double and bid spades a round earlier and they have not pre-empted high enough to prevent that plan.
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Posted 2009-August-08, 04:58

I like 2S. I doubt whether partner would take a double as penalties, especially if lho has the balls to pass.
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Posted 2009-August-10, 07:19



Here's the full hand. At the table, E passed and the contract went down 4. This resulted in a flat board since E at the other table played in 1and made +4 on a dia lead.

Btw, for EW another dbl by E would not be penalty. The meaning of a 2 bid by E was undiscussed between them.
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Posted 2009-August-10, 08:47

Partner forgot to bid 2D???
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