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Posted 2009-August-05, 09:08
1♣-(1♠)-ps-(4♠)
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No NFB avaible this time, search for a blame elsewhere.
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Posted 2009-August-05, 09:13
1. Even if you had a NFB available, this hand is WAY too weak
2. A case could be made that
Dealer should double 4♠
East should then bid 5♥
2. A case could be made that
Dealer should double 4♠
East should then bid 5♥
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Posted 2009-August-05, 09:15
No blame. Sometimes preempts work.
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Posted 2009-August-05, 09:21
West was fine, east is probably supposed to do something immediately with a void when white/red but that is dangerous so I dunno. No doubt gnasher and 655321 woulda bid something 
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Posted 2009-August-05, 09:22
hrothgar, on Aug 5 2009, 10:13 AM, said:
1. Even if you had a NFB available, this hand is WAY too weak
2. A case could be made that
Dealer should double 4♠
East should then bid 5♥
2. A case could be made that
Dealer should double 4♠
East should then bid 5♥
This looks very good when partner bids 5H but surely it's just a ton more likely that he will bid 5D rather than 5H.
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Posted 2009-August-05, 09:27
Jlall, on Aug 5 2009, 04:21 PM, said:
West was fine, east is probably supposed to do something immediately with a void when white/red but that is dangerous so I dunno. No doubt gnasher and 655321 woulda bid something
No, I'd have passed throughout. Even if I played weak jump shifts here, this would be too weak.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2009-August-05, 09:53
Jlall, on Aug 5 2009, 06:22 PM, said:
hrothgar, on Aug 5 2009, 10:13 AM, said:
1. Even if you had a NFB available, this hand is WAY too weak
2. A case could be made that
Dealer should double 4♠
East should then bid 5♥
2. A case could be made that
Dealer should double 4♠
East should then bid 5♥
This looks very good when partner bids 5H but surely it's just a ton more likely that he will bid 5D rather than 5H.
Fair enough
(I was worried that my comments were overly influenced by looking at both hands. It appears as if they were)
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Posted 2009-August-05, 10:43
Jlall, on Aug 5 2009, 10:22 AM, said:
hrothgar, on Aug 5 2009, 10:13 AM, said:
1. Even if you had a NFB available, this hand is WAY too weak
2. A case could be made that
Dealer should double 4♠
East should then bid 5♥
2. A case could be made that
Dealer should double 4♠
East should then bid 5♥
This looks very good when partner bids 5H but surely it's just a ton more likely that he will bid 5D rather than 5H.
Partner shouldn't move without some values not sure 5♥would even be correct over the X.
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Posted 2009-August-05, 11:01
Fluffy, on Aug 5 2009, 10:08 AM, said:
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1♣-(1♠)-ps-(4♠)
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No NFB avaible this time, search for a blame elsewhere.
I think East should have made a Neg-DBL.
If partner doesn't have Hts, he can tolerate partner's Cl or Diam rebid.
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Posted 2009-August-05, 13:13
i would have preempted to 3C with east because partner is favorite to have 5 clubs and will rarely have just 3C. But i can live with pass.
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Posted 2009-August-05, 14:37
Hi,
I think the auction is fine, although a possible alternative to
Pass is 2C, you will have a 8 card fit most of the time, in which
case the hand is stronger than 2HCP.
If you get another chance, you can maybe introduce hearts
in a later round, although partner never will give you a 6 carder.
The hand is unfortunately too weak for a 2H NFB bid or a 3H fit-jump.
With kind regards
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I think the auction is fine, although a possible alternative to
Pass is 2C, you will have a 8 card fit most of the time, in which
case the hand is stronger than 2HCP.
If you get another chance, you can maybe introduce hearts
in a later round, although partner never will give you a 6 carder.
The hand is unfortunately too weak for a 2H NFB bid or a 3H fit-jump.
With kind regards
Marlowe
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Posted 2009-August-05, 15:22
nobody even comented about bidding 4NT (Nv vs V) as east as an option, I though it was closer.
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Posted 2009-August-06, 02:42
Bidding 4NT over 4♠ would look silly if partner had KJx A K10xx AK10xx or KQ109 Kx xxx Axxx.
The opponents have had an unscientific auction and may be about to run into a bad spade break. It's wrong to unilaterally commit to the five level when you know least about who can make what.
The opponents have had an unscientific auction and may be about to run into a bad spade break. It's wrong to unilaterally commit to the five level when you know least about who can make what.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2009-August-06, 03:39
East certainly can't bid, and I think it is hard for west as well. No blame.
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