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Poll: you bid ? (34 member(s) have cast votes)

you bid ?

  1. 1. pass (11 votes [32.35%])

    Percentage of vote: 32.35%

  2. 2. x (17 votes [50.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 50.00%

  3. 3. 2c (6 votes [17.65%])

    Percentage of vote: 17.65%

  4. 4. other (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 User is offline   ghow 

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Posted 2009-August-04, 10:57

w. v. r u hold Q98 QJ2 QJ AQ642 rho bids 1!d
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Posted 2009-August-04, 11:32

X gets the hand off your chest for the rest of the auction
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Posted 2009-August-04, 13:11

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Posted 2009-August-04, 13:35

Agree with tuna too.
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Posted 2009-August-04, 19:20

IMPs or MPs?

I am inclined to PASS.

This hand looks defensive to me.
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Posted 2009-August-04, 20:07

Pass. I'll balance over 2♦ but an initial double is too likely to encourage partner to continue over their 3♦ when that is wrong.

It's equal to Q98 QJ2 32 AQ642 and considerably worse than Q982 QJ32 32 AQ2, which is still only a minimum double.
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Posted 2009-August-04, 21:31

I seriously LOL at how much people downgrade stuff like QJ tight when the opps overcall a suit or something, but when they simply open one of a minor it is now worth 0 points????? Get real!
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Posted 2009-August-04, 22:10

WTP double
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Posted 2009-August-04, 23:06

Jlall, on Aug 4 2009, 10:31 PM, said:

I seriously LOL at how much people downgrade stuff like QJ tight when the opps overcall a suit or something, but when they simply open one of a minor it is now worth 0 points????? Get real!

It's not worth zero points if we're considering 3NT or something similar, but for the purposes of deciding whether to make a takeout double in this situation the QJ is worth next to nothing. Competitive decisions are based on offensive/defensive differential not just a count of our side's assets.

If partner has a five card major and some values and they compete to 3♦ he is going to get it wrong if I double with this hand.

I might have valued the QJ as negative on the grounds that opponents will have more elsewhere when missing QJ of their suit, plus it has a better chance of scoring a trick on defence than offense. I took a rosy view and just counted it as zero :)
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Posted 2009-August-05, 00:36

Overcall 2C. This takes up a lot more room than a double.
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Posted 2009-August-05, 04:41

2♣ at IMPs. Not sure what to do at matchpoints.
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Posted 2009-August-05, 08:06

Double, not sure which of Pass and 2♣ I dislike more.
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Posted 2009-August-05, 08:18

655321, on Aug 5 2009, 09:06 AM, said:

Double, not sure which of Pass and 2♣ I dislike more.

2C has to be worse!
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Posted 2009-August-05, 08:26

Jlall, on Aug 5 2009, 02:18 PM, said:

655321, on Aug 5 2009, 09:06 AM, said:

Double, not sure which of Pass and 2♣ I dislike more.

2C has to be worse!

Thank you, I was starting to feel sick hearing all those club bids.
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