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#1 User is offline   cRi cRi 

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Posted 2009-July-29, 05:58

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You are South the bidding goes :

Pass 1♣ 1♥ 2♦
Dbl** pass 2♥ 3♥
Pass * 3NT pass pass
Dbl pass pass pass

* : Support double
** : Double would ask for an other lead.

What do you lead?
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Posted 2009-July-29, 06:18

Lemme see if I get this straight:

I overcalled 1♥ with:

♠6
♥J9842
♦98
♣K9652

And partner doubled 3NT after supporting my hearts? (with a 'support double').

I should lead a heart and hope partner won't mind 750.

View Postwyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.


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Posted 2009-July-29, 07:43

a ♥ WTP?
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Posted 2009-July-29, 07:56

support double, are yuo really sure?

if you are 100% sure you should lead a heart, but I doubt it and lead a club.
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Posted 2009-July-29, 07:59

cRi cRi, on Jul 29 2009, 06:58 AM, said:

♠6 ♥J9842 ♦98 ♣K9652

You are South the bidding goes :
Pass              1♣          1♥           2♦
Dbl**                pass           2♥            3♥
Pass *            3NT            pass              pass
Dbl                 pass           pass              pass

No, it doesn't.

Hanoi5, on Jul 29 2009, 07:18 AM, said:

Lemme see if I get this straight:

I overcalled 1♥ with:

♠6
♥J9842
♦98
♣K9652

No, I didn't, and you cannot convince me that I did. If you put a gun to my head, I'd take the damn bullet rather than being forced to bid 1♥.

Everything after this is just noise and a waste of time to try and answer.

jmoo.

EDIT: If I believe that I am playing with a real expert, I would expect the X of 2♦ to be snapdragon (showing spades and heart tolerance) without agreement, or possibly Rosenkranz (which is similar to a support double but promises at least one of the top three honors in the suit) by agreement and anyone who thinks it is a regular support X needs to go over to the B/I forum and ask "What is a support double?"

I suppose you could agree to play it this way, but:

1) it would be silly to do so and,
2) not without discussion and,
3) I still do not have this problem as there is no way in hell that I would ever bid 1♥.

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Posted 2009-July-29, 08:21

Hi,

the better alternative to 1H would have been 2NT, asuming this
showes clubs and hearts, the adv. is, that I show both suits and
kill space.

Not having done that, I will lead a heart, your partner showed
heart support and had the option to ask for a different lead.
If he would not have the option to double 3H, than I would say
go with a club.

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Posted 2009-July-29, 08:28

I lead a ♥. Partner can insert the Q from ♥AQx on the first trick and if that fails, he may have 1-2 diamond stoppers and hope that our ♣K is an entry. Btw, while I am all for overcalling light at the 1 level, bidding with this is over the top. Partner's a passed hand and all you are doing is advertising your distribution to the opponent's hand as you know they will be declaring. If you wanted to bid at least bid 1NT or 2♥ or something even though I wouldn't do both.
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Posted 2009-July-29, 08:52

Hmmm rubish overcall followed by support (Dbl :) for crying out loud), and partner didn't ask for another lead. So guess what, I'm leading a ♥ and prepare my apology when declarer is thinking.
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Posted 2009-July-29, 09:28

LOL at A/E.

Agreed with Bid 'em.
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Posted 2009-July-29, 09:38

Phil, on Jul 29 2009, 04:28 PM, said:

LOL at A/E.

Agree but didn't want to start ;) non-natural is even better!
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Posted 2009-July-29, 12:00

Let me see:
  • Partner showed support for my suit (not a support double, but anyway)
  • Partner could have asked me to lead another suit
  • Partner doubled for penalties
And I'm supposed to have a lead problem?
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Posted 2009-July-30, 01:27

Well, ok ok ... ♥ was the good lead :D
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