[skjaeran]

Fluffy, on Jul 28 2009, 04:41 PM, said:

North 100% (If I was a journalist 200% I'd say). He has GF values and let the opponents play an undoubled partscore, this is nuts. How can you blame south who already overbid with 2♣?

Huh?

When north bids an invitational 2♥ with his hand, isn't that an indication that 2♣ wasn't an overbid in their style, and that they where on the same page in the first round of bidding?

In which case south's pass over 3♠ is terrible judgement.

[655321]

Both.

2♣ was obvious, don't understand the suggestions that South should do something else.

2♥ I can live with. With the methods (I like to play 2♥ as forcing after a 2 level overcall, and NF only after a 1 level overcall) 2♥ is an underbid, but very rarely will the auction go all pass, and if it does at least we are NV.

South's Pass has to be wrong. Partner is unlikely to bid over 3♠ given that 2♥ was NF, and he has a fit and a singleton. Seems that South decided he was ashamed of his 2♣ overcall but his hand has improved anyway.

North's Pass also seems wrong, how bad can 4♥ be with such a solid suit? Perhaps he was worried about all his spade cards, but on this bidding his partner won't have many spades either.

[Phil]

The only terrible call to me is South's pass.

North's pass is a little conservative, but its reasonable with a club void and ♠Ace + length. if North doubles, I would expect South to pull it a fair amount of the time.

[benlessard]

You must play crappy overcall if north isnt strong enough to X 3S or to GF. In wich case you should probably alert your 2 level overcall. If that isnt the case south clearly has enough extras to bid 4H.

Ps isnt the French style for advancer

advancer is same level thant overcaller = forcing

2 over 1 ...NF


(1D)----1H-----(pass)------???

1S= forcing
2C = non forcing

(1D)----2C-----(Pass)-----2M is forcing (unless a PH)

[cRi cRi]

LEt's call it the French Junior style then