[gwnn]

p-p-1♠-2♦
2♠-x-3♠-p
p-??

Neither vulnerable MP's.

Oh and your hand is

x
J9xxx
Qx
AKTxx

Partner might be light.

[cRi cRi]

Double .... What else?

[Fluffy]

This hand screams -730, ♦Q is useless on defence if partner has a club fit you are toasted.

I would auto double opposite a normal 2♦ overcall. If partner is often light I like 4♦ now.

[Trinidad]

Didn't you describe your hand already? I think you did. That means partner has made the decision to defend 3♠ undoubled, unless you have something new to add. You don't have abnything new to add, therefore you respect partner's decision and pass.

Rik

[cRi cRi]

I storngly disagree with the fact that you have shown your hand already. Wouldn't you dbl with a 2432 and 8HCP ? I would. This hand is golden, moreover your passed 1st so your partner exactly know what to expect.

Maybe -730 but .... Partner does not have to pass.
Well, it is matchpoint after all, ***** happens.
-140 wont be a good score with this hand, I can promise you.

[Codo]

-140 is no good score, but + 50 is better then -100/-200.

We have around half of the deck, no established great fit.

I would like to show this hand by double, but I do not want him to sit and I do not want him to run.

So I pass too.

[P_Marlowe]

Pass.

Do we have a certain plus score? Given that p may be light,
the answer to "certain" is no.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[Trinidad]

cRi cRi, on Jul 27 2009, 06:56 AM, said:

I storngly disagree with the fact that you have shown your hand already. Wouldn't you dbl with a 2432 and 8HCP ? I would.

(I assume you meant 2434. )

I wouldn't double with a 2434 8 count. That is why I think I have described my hand.

With a 2434 8 count, I would bid 3♦. With a 2425 8 count, I might double and I might pass. With a 2524 8 count, I would usually double, but not always. (Take the given hand and change the ♣K into the ♠J to get ♠Jx ♥J9xxx ♦Qx ♣ATxx and I would pass.)

Is the actual hand very different from a good 2425 8 count? I don't think so.

Rik

[cRi cRi]

Well, maybe I am wrong then. But I would dbl any 2434 8 count, And there in no way I let 3♠ being non vul with this hand. Too many ways to win imho.

The 3 situations I can see where bidding is wrong is :
A - partner passes and it makes
B - Partner bids, 3♠ was down and we go down at the 4 level
C - Partner bids, we go for 2 down AND we got dbled.

I trust partner judgment, and If A happens quite often, B should very rarely happen and vice versa. I dont mean I trust partner to bid perfectly not know everything, just that I think if he tends to pass often, he will not bid when pass is the right action.

Going down 2 with my hand and get doubled is, imo, unlikely.

[nick_s]

I'm sort of pleasantly surprised that no one has suggested opening with this hand (yet). I wouldn't - but only because I can't stand a 2♦ response.

Agree with passing now.

[Gerben42]

Nespresso and a pass... what else?