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#21 User is offline   Rain 

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Posted 2004-June-05, 17:12

NotButter, on Jun 4 2004, 11:26 PM, said:

You want to become a good bridge player?

Give up duplicate (I won't even begin to talk about what on-line bridge does to your game) and go play in a decent rubber bridge school for 12 months.

If possible, get staked, but you need to lose some of your own money as well.

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Wayne asked what makes a good bridge player. Someone just gave me some advice on how to become a good bridge player.

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Posted 2004-June-05, 20:32

Good as in behaviour -

totally understanding, totally accepting - that bridge is a PARTNERSHIP game.

Good as in ability -

all those things stated in previous posts

but to be not just good but to be very very good you also have to have been born with the ability to use 'full vision analysis'.

just as most of us are either right handed or left handed so too do we 'see' - you don't believe me ? - ask any advertising agent !!

Watch me at a bridge table and EVERY time that I ask to see the played cards I will look first to my LHO because that's the one I won't be sure of . When my partner does it - she looks first to her RHO because that's the one she won't be sure of !! Which boils down to the fact that because we always sit E/W most of the time neither of us 'see' what south is doing ;)

Those that go on to become very very good NEVER have to ask !!

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Posted 2004-June-06, 04:35

To become a good player you need to have analysis skills, being able to find if the bad result came from partnerīs mistake (that happens only about 30% of the time, not the 97% people thinks), your own mistakes, both you and your partner or the partnerships, good play from the opponents, or simply a composition of very bad luck things.

You also need the help of really good players you can ask when you are unnable to find where is the mistake or how something had to bid and why, without such help you are doomed, having to rethink 1 century of bridge.

What makes yourself a bad player is to become proud of yourself, nobody will ever stop learning from in this game, there is always something you can do better, there are many hopeless players that never make any mistake in their opinion, just base their analysis from the fact they played perfect as always, where is the partnerīs mistake then?
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Posted 2004-June-06, 10:05

NotButter, on Jun 5 2004, 06:26 AM, said:

You want to become a good bridge player?

Give up duplicate (I won't even begin to talk about what on-line bridge does to your game) and go play in a decent rubber bridge school for 12 months.

If possible, get staked, but you need to lose some of your own money as well.

NotButter.

Are you kidding me?? Rubber is used for cars, not bridge!!! ;) Where's the competition?

I rather be compared with other pairs, and if we win, it means we're better than everybody else and I just love that feeling... :P
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Posted 2004-June-08, 15:36

Fluffy, on Jun 6 2004, 12:35 PM, said:

What makes yourself a bad player is to become proud of yourself, nobody will ever stop learning from in this game, there is always something you can do better, there are many hopeless players that never make any mistake in their opinion, just base their analysis from the fact they played perfect as always,  where is the partnerīs mistake then?

yup... nothing makes me angrier than to play with someone (usually it's a pickup partner, but surprisingly not always) who might make several bidding/play mistakes yet jump on a mistake i might have made... if it must be talked about (and it must, in a regular p'ship), do it in private

i've not played with him yet, but i imagine fluffy is probably an excellent partner to play with, much as ben and several others are... i've had the privilege of playing with many of the posters here, and it makes for a more successful and enjoyable session when each trusts one another to do what seems best at the time (even when it doesn't work out)...
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Posted 2004-June-09, 01:42

Dn the dutch online bridgesite we used the term "brulaap" meaning roaring monkey, for people who yell at their (expert) partners for supposed mistakes, while having made a lot of rather silly bids and plays themselves. If you kibitz with a lot of players, it really can be very funny to watch and comment. It should be very educating for the monkey to send him the chat log, though.....
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