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When do you bid 2C with 2 suits hand?

#1 User is offline   cnszsun 

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Posted 2009-July-16, 01:55

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If you don't open this one 2C, what kind of change would make you do it?
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Posted 2009-July-16, 02:03

Another Ace, best would be the Ace of spades.

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Posted 2009-July-16, 02:10

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Posted 2009-July-16, 02:10

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Posted 2009-July-16, 02:11

I consider myself a king short.
Please let me know about any questions or interest or bug reports about GIB.
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Posted 2009-July-16, 02:17

Add an ace or a king. The given hand is not a 2C opener for me.
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Posted 2009-July-16, 02:37

cnszsun, on Jul 16 2009, 02:55 AM, said:

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If you don't open this one 2C, what kind of change would make you do it?

two suited majors hand with 4 losers never ending debate on bbo.


3 losers makes this an easy 2c for me.

finding rebids for 3 loser major suited hands....is too tough.........too often....



1s=1nt
3h does not help me....




2c=2d
2s tells pard 4 loser hand max.......granted I still got issues.
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Posted 2009-July-16, 07:35

I am about a king short, although the majors hand isn't too bad to bad over partner's 2♦ bid... Otherwise it's miserable though.
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Posted 2009-July-16, 08:00

Fred opened
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with 2♣ in 2002 (2nd seat, all vul), I wonder if he still does it.
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Posted 2009-July-16, 08:01

Add a major suit jack and I probably would, or at least consider it.
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Posted 2009-July-16, 14:52

Easy 1♠ opener, IMO. Give me an ace, and I'd at least consider 2♣....
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Posted 2009-July-16, 18:26

I suggest you to play some kind of leaping michaels after 2C opening and to jump to 3M with 4M and 6m hands, those 2 big suiters are a frequent problems.

Unless you have a specific way to deal with those hands i suggest to wait having 9.5 tricks before opening them 2C. (your missing a Majors Jack to open 2C imo)
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