[kgr]

Scoring: MP

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MP's against below average opps at a club game.
This is how I bid it (I hoped they would DBL 2S or 3S ):
1♠-(Pass)-pass-(DBL)
2♣-(DBL)-Pass-(Pass)
2♠-All Pass
 
What would you do different?

[the hog]

1S (P) P (x)
4S

You only need partner to have the Q of C to have a good play for 4. How are you going to find that out?

[gwnn]

I would not make two non-forcing bids under game level!

[Codo]

It depends a little on the system and partner. When I have agreed that partner will not pass 1 ♠ with an ace and out, I will bid different. There is no chance to make 4 spade when he has no ace or the queen of clubs.

And the chance that he holds the queen of clubs is what? I guess below 33 %, but surely not more.

So 4 Spade wins only when they can bid and make 4 heart- no way- or when your partner owns exactly the queen of clubs. Hardly a lock.

OTOH with a partner who tends to pass 1 Spade with x, Axxx,xxxx,xxxx, I would g for 3 spade. Partner will raise me with an ace.

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

2S is not enough, either bid 3S or 4S, both are ok.

But in the end you tried to play game with the oppoents and
did not work out, happens.
Given your trump honors, it is not likely that they will x
you in 3S.

With kind regards
Marlowe

PS: I also agree that 2C in the 2nd round is not enough, sry
how do you feel, if 2C gets passed out.

[jdonn]

I would rebid 4♠ on the second round, but given the first two rounds I would bid only 3♠ on the third round. The double of 2♣ warns me against more.

[Phil]

My partners deny an Ace when they pass a 1 bid, so I can count three quick losers. Even the ♣Q doesn't give me 10 tricks, but it brings me a lot closer.

However, 4♠ might be a good sac against 4♥. 2♣ is never getting passed out, and we might get some good information, and we will help pard with evaluation.

With 2♣ getting smacked, I'd settle for 2♠ on the 3rd round but I'd take the push to 3 if they competed.

So I like your bidding.

[dake50]

How about S10 DK onside and CQ onside? More imponderables.

[kgr]

Partner had:
x
xxxxx
xxxx
Qxx
2♠ made +1 as RHO did have 4 clubs from the A and after my Club bid it was easy for him to hold up Club A when his partner played ♣ and keep the 4th club.
....
but if bidding would have been 1S-(p)-p-(DBL)-4S then it would probably have made against these opps.

[cherdanno]

dake50, on Jul 15 2009, 11:34 AM, said:

How about S10 DK onside and CQ onside? More imponderables.

Did you mean ♣AQ tight onside, or did you assume a misdefense?

[mtvesuvius]

4♠ after the double. The opponents will be so tilted that they balanced you into game that they will probably misdefend.

[MarkDean]

I really dislike 4♠. Even if partner has the queen of clubs, 4♠ may not be making, and it seems to me that the chance he has it is less than 1/3 (if he has a few minor cards, he might have responded with the CQ as well).