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#1 User is offline   Ant590 

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Posted 2009-July-10, 04:43

Scoring: MP


(3) - dbl - (5) - ?

Is this a wtp?

edit: 3 opened, not 1
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Posted 2009-July-10, 06:22

pass, anything else has to be against the odds. A bit more interesting if partner doubles again
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Posted 2009-July-10, 07:11

If I read this correctly,
1. Opps are Red and we are white
2. South (our RHO) chose not to redouble or bid 3NT, but instead jumped to 5

Unless RHO is certain that we have a game/slam in a major suit, his action is illogical at MPs. RHO could have a freakish hand with minors, and hold strong hopes of making 5.
I will bid 5. I will be ready with a apology if partner had a hand suitable to beat 5.
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Posted 2009-July-10, 07:14

I pass. If I survive this round I'll bid spades.

 wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the 3.


 rbforster, on 2012-May-20, 21:04, said:

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Posted 2009-July-10, 08:32

Even expecting a Majorish 14-15 minimum for partner's Double, 5S can't be unreasonable. I do have SQ +HQ +C-single. My fear is partner with little more than minimum for 3-bid takeout double gets rosey eyes for slam.
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Posted 2009-July-10, 11:29

If you do pass, partner reopens with another double...
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Posted 2009-July-10, 12:38

5 over the second double.

 wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the 3.


 rbforster, on 2012-May-20, 21:04, said:

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Posted 2009-July-10, 15:13

Pass and pass again.

May be very wrong but partner will have something like AJxx AJxx AQxx x far more often than AKxx AKxx KQxx x... not that we're cold for 5 even on that monster.
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Posted 2009-July-10, 15:20

Agree with pass then pass, especially white/red, but even red/white we just don't have enough of a hand to bid 5.
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Posted 2009-July-11, 02:05

mikeh, on Jul 10 2009, 10:13 PM, said:

Pass and pass again.

May be very wrong but partner will have something like AJxx AJxx AQxx x far more often than AKxx AKxx KQxx x... not that we're cold for 5 even on that monster.

The odd one is still the 5 bid (red vs. white). Assume the 3 bidder is something like x xx xxx AKJxxxx. If your partner's hand is then AJxx AJxx AQxx x, this means the 5 bidder had something like Kxx Kxx Kxx Qxxx.

I'm not sure many will jump to 5 with such hands when they had a 3NT bid or an option to pass with hope to defeat 4. It appears more likely that partner is a strong 2-suited/3-suited hand; and a club void is not ruled out.

I'd have bid 5 on the earlier round, but after the re-opening double I definitely bid 5.
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Posted 2009-July-11, 03:01

The complete hand was:

Scoring: MP

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Posted 2009-July-11, 04:12

Agree with Mike and Justin. Bidding 5S the second time is taking a last guess on this hand.
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Posted 2009-July-11, 05:26

se12sam, on Jul 11 2009, 09:05 AM, said:

The odd one is still the 5 bid (red vs. white). Assume the 3 bidder is something like x xx xxx AKJxxxx. If your partner's hand is then AJxx AJxx AQxx x, this means the 5 bidder had something like Kxx Kxx Kxx Qxxx.

Why shouldn't they have xxx x xx AKJxxxx opposite K Kxxx Kxxx Qxxx? That action is particularly attractive if RHO knows you're likely to bid 5 on tram tickets.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2009-July-11, 12:28

Pass/pass here. 5S is just too unlikely.
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