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#1 User is offline   kfay 

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Posted 2009-June-29, 13:27

Played this hand with Phil the other day. I thought afterwards 'surely this isn't how it was supposed to go' and even though I got a chuckle out of my own Airplane reference I am still upset that I don't know how it IS supposed to go.

http://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer...4584-1245581872

2NT was 2 places to play. So...

BTW you don't play ELC or whatever.
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Posted 2009-June-29, 20:08

Hmmm, GIB says you should have made it :)
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Posted 2009-June-29, 20:22

xcurt, on Jun 30 2009, 09:08 AM, said:

Hmmm, GIB says you should have made it :)

Yeah yeah, run the DQ smothering the stiff J. My grandmother can make that hand.
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Posted 2009-June-29, 20:37

Well I mean clearly I'm not upset about being IN 4♥. But is this the way to get there?
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Posted 2009-June-30, 00:33

Don't ind 2Nt. What agreement do you have about the strength and meaning, H&D or H & m? If H&D, prefer 3H over Phil's 3D and now Phil should bid 4H.
If H&m, I would bid same as you.
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Posted 2009-June-30, 09:09

The_Hog, on Jun 30 2009, 01:33 AM, said:

Don't ind 2Nt. What agreement do you have about the strength and meaning, H&D or H & m? If H&D, prefer 3H over Phil's 3D and now Phil should bid 4H.
If H&m, I would bid same as you.

Well, 2N was understood as "two places to play". At least until Kevin bid 4♥.

At the time when he bid 4♥, I thought that he might have superaccepting a transfer over a natural 2N and I was anticipating an 18 count with four hearts in dummy LOL.

What should 3♥ really mean? At the table Paca pointed out that I am marked with at least 3 hearts here (do you see why?). Perhaps it should just be a forward-going hand non-specific to the minor.
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Posted 2009-June-30, 09:14

Phil, on Jun 30 2009, 04:09 PM, said:

What should 3♥ really mean? At the table Paca pointed out that I am marked with at least 3 hearts here (do you see why?). Perhaps it should just be a forward-going hand non-specific to the minor.

Don't see how it can be "forward going" - you need to bid 3♥ on a minimum with ♥+♣.

The auction seems reasonable to me.
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Posted 2009-June-30, 09:26

MickyB, on Jun 30 2009, 10:14 AM, said:

Phil, on Jun 30 2009, 04:09 PM, said:

What should 3♥ really mean? At the table Paca pointed out that I am marked with at least 3 hearts here (do you see why?). Perhaps it should just be a forward-going hand non-specific to the minor.

Don't see how it can be "forward going" - you need to bid 3♥ on a minimum with ♥+♣.

The auction seems reasonable to me.

Very true. Good hands with clubs just bid them.
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Posted 2009-June-30, 10:33

Am so disappointed. I thought this topic was about something else...
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