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What do you open this? And how do you handle it afterwards?

#1 User is offline   Hanoi5 

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Posted 2009-June-23, 04:52

All white:
♠AKQ97532
♥A
♦Q7
♣63

If you open 1♠ partner bids
Spoiler


If you open 2♣ partner bids
Spoiler


Is there any other opening? If you open 4♠ partner will probably Pass. What do you do after your partner's response in each case?

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Posted 2009-June-23, 05:04

I think this hand is an obvious 1♠ and then 3♠ over the hidden reply.

It is about an ace and a queen too strong for 4♠ and an ace and a jack too weak for 2♣.
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Posted 2009-June-23, 05:07

Some might want to open 4♦ on this, but for me there are too many side values. 2♣ is fine if you can stop below game in your system, but in SAYC you might be too weak.

Playing a strong 2♣ with direct 2nd negative, it's easy to simply sign off after the 2nd negative response.

Otherwise: 1♠ - 2♥ - 3♠.
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Posted 2009-June-23, 05:16

1♠ then 3♠. The hand doesn't seem suited for a 2♣ or a 4♠ opening like gwnn suggests.
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Posted 2009-June-23, 05:22

I would hate a 2♣ opening with a onesuiter with 15 HCPS.
So it is 3 NT or 4♦ if you play this stuff. (Some do, to me this is a perfect 3 NT opening, but this is non standard)

Under the given methods, it is 1 ♠ - 3♠ and you have perfectly described your hand.

BTW. This sounds like a real BI question. :)
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Posted 2009-June-23, 05:40

This is an almost prototypical NAMYATS hand.

I don't have Preempts from A to Z handy; however, this matches up very nicely with their description of a 4♦ opening.

If I'm not playing this type of specialized preempt, I'd probably open 1♠
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Posted 2009-June-23, 05:48

1S, followed by 3S.

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Posted 2009-June-23, 06:16

What is my solid suit with side A/void opening? To ask cue A or deny A.
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Posted 2009-June-23, 07:15

1♠ first, 2♣ is awful.

Then 3♠, what's next?
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Posted 2009-June-23, 08:09

What is wrong with 1♠ - 4♠?
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Posted 2009-June-23, 08:25

ochinko, on Jun 23 2009, 09:09 AM, said:

What is wrong with 1♠ - 4♠?

I think that would show a substantially weaker hand. E.g. make a small spade to a club, the diamond queen a small one, and you would get a maximum for a 4♠ rebid IMO.
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Posted 2009-June-23, 23:11

Agree with Csaba.
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Posted 2009-June-24, 00:36

ochinko, on Jun 23 2009, 11:09 PM, said:

What is wrong with 1♠ - 4♠?

Partner made a 2/1 bid, so you are in slam territory.
So, despite the fact that I cannot construct a hand where a 4 ♠ would make any sense, it must surely be a weaker hand then a 3♠ bid.

4 Spade had been the obvious choice after 1 ♠ 1 NT.
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Posted 2009-June-24, 06:40

gazilli is good here, 1sp, if 1nt comes 2c, then 4sp: long spades, better than 1sp-1nt-4sp, but worse than 1s-1nt-2c-X-3sp:)
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Posted 2009-June-24, 08:21

1♠-2♣-3♠ is perfect. The way most people play this spades are absolutely trumps and opener is showing extra values.
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Posted 2009-June-24, 11:02

:D

Don't know SAYC but this should be easy for Acol although it misses the official criterion 2♠ (8 playing tricks with ♠'s as Trumps

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Posted 2009-June-24, 12:03

Apollo81, on Jun 24 2009, 09:21 AM, said:

1♠-2♣-3♠ is perfect. The way most people play this spades are absolutely trumps and opener is showing extra values.

And if Responder's 2/1 bid is game force, then the 3S-jump sets trump and demands cuebidding.
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