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#1 User is offline   CSGibson 

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Posted 2009-June-22, 09:41

Scoring: IMP

1♦-(1♥)-?


If the style of the various people at the table matter, partner opens most 11 counts, and RHO has twice made lead-directing overcalls on 3 card suits against you in the past month (though with different partners), and frequently only has 4 for his bid.

Do you just ignore the overcall and bid 2 clubs, or do you pass intending to pass a reopening X? If you are thinking about passing, also let me know what you would lead in 1♥X.
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Posted 2009-June-22, 11:48

Obvious 2♣. I wouldn't dream of trapping at the one level with 87xxx.
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Posted 2009-June-22, 12:29

yeah its not tempting.
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Posted 2009-June-22, 12:30

2C

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Posted 2009-June-22, 15:30

2♣. Trapping on 87xxx is bad!
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Posted 2009-June-22, 15:37

I feel it warrants mentioning that 2♣ gives you all sorts of rebid problems on the next round or two of the auction. But since you could make a million tricks in clubs you shouldn't pass now.
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Posted 2009-June-22, 16:04

this may end up terribly wrong after the obvious 2♣ call, but I can never defend 1♥ doubled anyway... if partner has a hand on which we can beat 1♥, be probably can't reopen with a double anyway...his hearts are too long.

So my choices really appear to be: pass and see what happens... knowing that I cannot sit for a double and that I cannot catch up if he makes some other call... or 2♣ and hope to have an easy rebid, while expecting to have a horrific choice.... let's see a poll for what to do after a 2♦ bid by partner! Now that would be an interesting poll (I suspect that most experts would fudge via 2♥... which would invite yet another poll on the next round).

It would not surprise me to learn that the best practical result would be 1♥ undoubled, to which I would lead the club A
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Posted 2009-June-22, 17:53

CSGibson, on Jun 22 2009, 10:41 AM, said:

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1♦-(1♥)-?


If the style of the various people at the table matter, partner opens most 11 counts, and RHO has twice made lead-directing overcalls on 3 card suits against you in the past month (though with different partners), and frequently only has 4 for his bid.

Do you just ignore the overcall and bid 2 clubs, or do you pass intending to pass a reopening X? If you are thinking about passing, also let me know what you would lead in 1♥X.

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Posted 2009-June-22, 21:52

Despite all of the potential problems mentioned above, 2♣ is clear.

Bid your cards, don't let the opponent's peculiar proclivities cause you to do something peculiar. Odds are that your opponent has a normal 1♥ overcall. There is little about your hand to suggest that 1♥x will be the best spot for your side.
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Posted 2009-June-23, 00:51

Despite the other factors (RHO being random) that does not sway me to trap pass. Our trumps are soo bad. East could just have a normal 1♥ overcall. I'd bid 2♣.
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Posted 2009-June-23, 03:06

2C. Would not cotemplate a trap pass with this tripe.
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Posted 2009-June-23, 03:25

If it is a lead directing overcall, wait for LHO to raise before doubling.

So double or 2♣ (depending on NFB or not)


EDIT: lead directing overcall, not double
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Posted 2009-June-23, 10:05

jdonn, on Jun 22 2009, 05:37 PM, said:

I feel it warrants mentioning that 2♣ gives you all sorts of rebid problems on the next round or two of the auction. But since you could make a million tricks in clubs you shouldn't pass now.

Can't you just bid 2♠ over the likely 2♦ rebid? I doubt partner will raise on 3.
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Posted 2009-June-23, 10:11

Apollo81, on Jun 23 2009, 11:05 AM, said:

jdonn, on Jun 22 2009, 05:37 PM, said:

I feel it warrants mentioning that 2♣ gives you all sorts of rebid problems on the next round or two of the auction. But since you could make a million tricks in clubs you shouldn't pass now.

Can't you just bid 2♠ over the likely 2♦ rebid? I doubt partner will raise on 3.

Are you happy if he raises on 4?
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Posted 2009-June-23, 10:24

jdonn, on Jun 23 2009, 12:11 PM, said:

Apollo81, on Jun 23 2009, 11:05 AM, said:

jdonn, on Jun 22 2009, 05:37 PM, said:

I feel it warrants mentioning that 2♣ gives you all sorts of rebid problems on the next round or two of the auction. But since you could make a million tricks in clubs you shouldn't pass now.

Can't you just bid 2♠ over the likely 2♦ rebid? I doubt partner will raise on 3.

Are you happy if he raises on 4?

As happy as one can be with any contract on this hand.
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