[onoway]

First, query, I am not your "dear", and trying to patronize me is slightly..VERY slightly..amusing. Do you understand the concepts of the words "could " and "might"? There are several dictionary sites on the web which can help in this regard, since you seem to have some sort of misconceptions regarding their meaning.

[JoAnneM]

LOL, that reminds me of the other day when that General called Senator Boxer "Ma'am". It didn't work for him either.

Sorry, very off topic.

[qwery_hi]

onoway, on Jun 22 2009, 04:30 AM, said:

First, query, I am not your "dear", and trying to patronize me is slightly..VERY slightly..amusing. Do you understand the concepts of the words "could " and "might"? There are several dictionary sites on the web which can help in this regard, since you seem to have some sort of misconceptions regarding their meaning.

Second, Dear onoway, I might not want to call you Dear always, but then I might want to sometimes, since I can choose to do it anytime. If you can't take it, don't dish it out.
Save your advice for someone who gives a damn, dearest chit.

[onoway]

wow that was the best you could come up with after thinking for nearly two days?LOL

[blackshoe]

JoAnneM, on Jun 23 2009, 03:30 PM, said:

LOL, that reminds me of the other day when that General called Senator Boxer "Ma'am". It didn't work for him either.

Sorry, very off topic.

I wasn't there, so I have no idea what actually occurred, but apparently you believe the General was being patronizing. Maybe he was, but as a matter of fact, military members are taught from boot camp onwards to address male superiors as "sir" and female superiors as "ma'am". And that includes Senators and Representatives.

[pokerbids]

The title of the thread is Rules against rude manners and I think the original poster AAr has perhaps well proved his point...well at least to me. If one reads the entire thread I say to myself if its allowed on here why not on table? Of course on here no one is being rude...they are being sarcastic, patronising, someone said stupid, insensitive but rude no way...No rudeness in this thread!!!!! Here we are just trying to gently put our point of view across to our fellow posters. On the bridge table heaven forbid we allow what AAr is suggesting but here...well here its not the table there we will never be patronising to our opps but here its different. Of course accuse anyone of even bordering on rudeness here I know someone will snap my head of cause really I bet no one thinks they are actually being rude! But...well read the whole thing and maybe....

[matmat]

pokerbids, on Jun 24 2009, 03:02 PM, said:

The title of the thread is Rules against rude manners and I think the original poster AAr has perhaps well proved his point...well at least to me. If one reads the entire thread I say to myself if its allowed on here why not on table? Of course on here no one is being rude...they are being sarcastic, patronising, someone said stupid, insensitive but rude no way...No rudeness in this thread!!!!! Here we are just trying to gently put our point of view across to our fellow posters. On the bridge table heaven forbid we allow what AAr is suggesting but here...well here its not the table there we will never be patronising to our opps but here its different. Of course accuse anyone of even bordering on rudeness here I know someone will snap my head of cause really I bet no one thinks they are actually being rude! But...well read the whole thing and maybe....

what? I'm never rude!

[Lobowolf]

[quote name='matmat' date='Jun 21 2009, 02:24 PM'] [quote name='qwery_hi' date='Jun 21 2009, 02:21 PM'] [quote name='matmat' date='Jun 21 2009, 10:47 AM'] [quote name='qwery_hi' date='Jun 21 2009, 01:40 PM'] [quote name='onoway' date='Jun 21 2009, 08:41 AM'] [QUOTEWith socially inclusive people like you playing Bridge, who needs antisocial ones. ]

Did I step on a toe? It wasn't intentional if so..my point was simply that such activities do not require people to interact much with other people. Perfectly sociable people might enjoy any or all of those things, obviously. [/quote]
Not my toe dear, your foot is knee deep in your mouth. Perfectly sociable people might not enjoy any or all of those things, obviously. [/quote]
LOL

i suppose you consider yourself sociable? [/quote]
Yeah, more than you at least.

"If your level of maturity is at or below that of Matmat's you might not care about that, but fortunately most bridge players are at least beginning to approach adulthood." [/quote]
heh. wow. you know, most people, when they quote, have the decency to attribute to quote to an author. [/quote]
Maybe he aspires to be Vice President one day.

Hey now!!

[qwery_hi]

onoway, on Jun 23 2009, 02:59 PM, said:

wow that was the best you could come up with after thinking for nearly two days?LOL

Yeah, I was busy playing chess with your mom

[matmat]

qwery_hi, on Jun 25 2009, 01:43 AM, said:

onoway, on Jun 23 2009, 02:59 PM, said:

wow  that was the best you could come up with after thinking for nearly two days?LOL

Yeah, I was busy playing chess with your mom

Quality.

[qwery_hi]

matmat, on Jun 24 2009, 10:56 PM, said:

qwery_hi, on Jun 25 2009, 01:43 AM, said:

onoway, on Jun 23 2009, 02:59 PM, said:

wow   that was the best you could come up with after thinking for nearly two days?LOL

Yeah, I was busy playing chess with your mom

Quality.

Indeed, some combinations would have made Kasparov proud.

[Elianna]

pokerbids, on Jun 24 2009, 12:02 PM, said:

The title of the thread is Rules against rude manners and I think the original poster AAr has perhaps well proved his point...well at least to me. If one reads the entire thread I say to myself if its allowed on here why not on table? Of course on here no one is being rude...they are being sarcastic, patronising, someone said stupid, insensitive but rude no way...No rudeness in this thread!!!!! Here we are just trying to gently put our point of view across to our fellow posters. On the bridge table heaven forbid we allow what AAr is suggesting but here...well here its not the table there we will never be patronising to our opps but here its different. Of course accuse anyone of even bordering on rudeness here I know someone will snap my head of cause really I bet no one thinks they are actually being rude! But...well read the whole thing and maybe....

Unfortunately (or fortunately if you're certain people) rudeness is not forbidden in the forums or IRL bridge.

[qwery_hi]

Elianna, on Jun 24 2009, 11:28 PM, said:

pokerbids, on Jun 24 2009, 12:02 PM, said:

The title of the thread is Rules against rude manners and I think the original poster AAr has perhaps well proved his point...well at least to me. If one reads the entire thread I say to myself if its allowed on here why not on table? Of course on here no one is being rude...they are being sarcastic, patronising, someone said stupid, insensitive but rude no way...No rudeness in this thread!!!!! Here we are just trying to gently put our point of view across to our fellow posters. On the bridge table heaven forbid we allow what AAr is suggesting but here...well here its not the table there we will never be patronising to our opps but here its different. Of course accuse anyone of even bordering on rudeness here I know someone will snap my head of cause really I bet no one thinks they are actually being rude! But...well read the whole thing and maybe....

Unfortunately (or fortunately if you're certain people) rudeness is not forbidden in the forums or IRL bridge.

Unfortunately (or fortunately if you're certain people) rudeness is not forbidden in the forums or IRL bridge. * or IRL *

[Elianna]

qwery_hi, on Jun 24 2009, 11:33 PM, said:

Elianna, on Jun 24 2009, 11:28 PM, said:

pokerbids, on Jun 24 2009, 12:02 PM, said:

The title of the thread is Rules against rude manners and I think the original poster AAr has perhaps well proved his point...well at least to me. If one reads the entire thread I say to myself if its allowed on here why not on table? Of course on here no one is being rude...they are being sarcastic, patronising, someone said stupid, insensitive but rude no way...No rudeness in this thread!!!!! Here we are just trying to gently put our point of view across to our fellow posters. On the bridge table heaven forbid we allow what AAr is suggesting but here...well here its not the table there we will never be patronising to our opps but here its different. Of course accuse anyone of even bordering on rudeness here I know someone will snap my head of cause really I bet no one thinks they are actually being rude! But...well read the whole thing and maybe....

Unfortunately (or fortunately if you're certain people) rudeness is not forbidden in the forums or IRL bridge.

Unfortunately (or fortunately if you're certain people) rudeness is not forbidden in the forums or IRL bridge. * or IRL *

How true.

[Trinidad]

Elianna, on Jun 25 2009, 02:38 AM, said:

qwery_hi, on Jun 24 2009, 11:33 PM, said:

Elianna, on Jun 24 2009, 11:28 PM, said:

pokerbids, on Jun 24 2009, 12:02 PM, said:

The title of the thread is Rules against rude manners and I think the original poster AAr has perhaps well proved his point...well at least to me. If one reads the entire thread I say to myself if its allowed on here why not on table? Of course on here no one is being rude...they are being sarcastic, patronising, someone said stupid, insensitive but rude no way...No rudeness in this thread!!!!! Here we are just trying to gently put our point of view across to our fellow posters. On the bridge table heaven forbid we allow what AAr is suggesting but here...well here its not the table there we will never be patronising to our opps but here its different. Of course accuse anyone of even bordering on rudeness here I know someone will snap my head of cause really I bet no one thinks they are actually being rude! But...well read the whole thing and maybe....

Unfortunately (or fortunately if you're certain people) rudeness is not forbidden in the forums or IRL bridge.

Unfortunately (or fortunately if you're certain people) rudeness is not forbidden in the forums or IRL bridge. * or IRL *

How true.

Just to clarify: Rudeness may not be forbidden IRL, but it is forbidden IRL bridge. Players who have forgotten that should write Law 74A 1 and 2 10 times over. They can take it to their parents and have them sign it after which they can hand it in to the TD.

Law 74 A 1 and 2 state:

Quote

LAW 74 - CONDUCT AND ETIQUETTE
A. Proper Attitude
1. A player should maintain a courteous attitude at all times.
2. A player should carefully avoid any remark or action that might
cause annoyance or embarrassment to another player or might
interfere with the enjoyment of the game.

I am fairly sure that the BBO management is of the opinion that this law is applicable, without any restrictions, to online bridge at BBO.

Rik

[qwery_hi]

Indeed - this is exactly why a wdp or a wdo may be considered against the laws. Chatting away after a hand has been played also may interfere with an opponents enjoyment of the game.

[blackshoe]

I have played with and against players who seem predisposed to consider just about anything as interfering with their enjoyment of the game.

[mycroft]

I have as well; but I have also heard complaints from players who just sat for things that really, truly did interfere with their enjoyment of the game, and limited their effort to asking that it stop, and seething when it didn't.

Just last week, in fact.

[Elianna]

Trinidad, on Jun 25 2009, 04:22 AM, said:

Elianna, on Jun 25 2009, 02:38 AM, said:

qwery_hi, on Jun 24 2009, 11:33 PM, said:

Elianna, on Jun 24 2009, 11:28 PM, said:

pokerbids, on Jun 24 2009, 12:02 PM, said:

The title of the thread is Rules against rude manners and I think the original poster AAr has perhaps well proved his point...well at least to me. If one reads the entire thread I say to myself if its allowed on here why not on table? Of course on here no one is being rude...they are being sarcastic, patronising, someone said stupid, insensitive but rude no way...No rudeness in this thread!!!!! Here we are just trying to gently put our point of view across to our fellow posters. On the bridge table heaven forbid we allow what AAr is suggesting but here...well here its not the table there we will never be patronising to our opps but here its different. Of course accuse anyone of even bordering on rudeness here I know someone will snap my head of cause really I bet no one thinks they are actually being rude! But...well read the whole thing and maybe....

Unfortunately (or fortunately if you're certain people) rudeness is not forbidden in the forums or IRL bridge.

Unfortunately (or fortunately if you're certain people) rudeness is not forbidden in the forums or IRL bridge. * or IRL *

How true.

Just to clarify: Rudeness may not be forbidden IRL, but it is forbidden IRL bridge. Players who have forgotten that should write Law 74A 1 and 2 10 times over. They can take it to their parents and have them sign it after which they can hand it in to the TD.

Law 74 A 1 and 2 state:

Quote

LAW 74 - CONDUCT AND ETIQUETTE
A. Proper Attitude
1. A player should maintain a courteous attitude at all times.
2. A player should carefully avoid any remark or action that might
cause annoyance or embarrassment to another player or might
interfere with the enjoyment of the game.

I am fairly sure that the BBO management is of the opinion that this law is applicable, without any restrictions, to online bridge at BBO.

Rik

Oh please! I've had opponents swearing at me in front of the director, and nothing has happened. Those rules seem to be unenforced.

[onoway]

People who are determined to be rude are like people who are determined to cheat; equally self involved and sure the universe OUGHT to revolve around their interests, and therefore equally impossible to stop, as they see no reason why they should.

Most people on BBO imo aren't like that, most I think are likely rude by accident; a misunderstanding of some sort, perhaps a comment missent, perhaps sometimes a comment made in the heat of the moment after a series of stressful hands, who knows? However, The TD's have a responsibility to deal with rudeness in tourneys, whatever the reason for it happening. Being a TD involves more than finding subs and announcing winners, and sometimes it can be uncomfortable but that's no excuse for allowing any players to be sworn at, for example.

I played in one tourney where someone was summarilly evicted from the tourney for a highly inappropriate remark made in tourney chat, almost as soon as it came up in chat. No fuss, no muss, no waste of time. It seemed a fine resolution, and hopefully will lead to some understanding on the part of the offender that such behaviour carries a cost.

If someone is consistently rude I suppose they will eventually find themselves banned from most if not all tourneys. It's also possible to report them to BBO Abuse but it's likely just as effective to mark them enemy/waste of time and go about your business. It's not worth the miniscule amount of energy it takes to do anything else, beyond perhaps feel a small degree of pity for how unhappy their lives must be, that they feel it necessary to try to make other people unhappy as well.