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Axx A AKQx QTxxx
1♣ - (2♥) - dbl - (4♥)
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Posted 2009-May-30, 13:20
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Posted 2009-May-30, 13:54
Looks like either a conservative 4♠ or an agressive 5NT to me.
I'd preferred holding the ♣9, but I'll go for 5NT anyway.
I'd preferred holding the ♣9, but I'll go for 5NT anyway.
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Posted 2009-May-30, 14:42
4N followed by 5♥ over 5♣/5♦ but pass over 5♠
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Posted 2009-May-30, 14:45
4♠ wouldn't be very high on my list. Wouldn't double be for takeout?
Anyway, I bid 4NT for the minors, planning to raise whatever he bids to six.
We seem to have lots of possible ways to show this type of hand:
- 4NT then raise
- 4NT then 5♥
- 5NT
- 5♥ then 5NT
To me, 5♥-5♠-5NT sounds like a grand slam try for spades, so I'd avoid that. Of the other three, 4NT then 5♥ is obviously the strongest. I don't think this hand is worth it, with gaps in all three suits.
The difference between the remaining two is something we touched on in this thread. I still don't know what the difference is.
Anyway, I bid 4NT for the minors, planning to raise whatever he bids to six.
We seem to have lots of possible ways to show this type of hand:
- 4NT then raise
- 4NT then 5♥
- 5NT
- 5♥ then 5NT
To me, 5♥-5♠-5NT sounds like a grand slam try for spades, so I'd avoid that. Of the other three, 4NT then 5♥ is obviously the strongest. I don't think this hand is worth it, with gaps in all three suits.
The difference between the remaining two is something we touched on in this thread. I still don't know what the difference is.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2009-May-30, 15:14
5NT. I'm worried of missing 7, but I don't think it's possible to bid a grand here with certainty.
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Posted 2009-May-31, 08:49
I think it's very close between doubling and getting partner to pick a slam. Perhaps it depends exactly how often partner is likely to pull a double and/or how aggressive opponents are. We might also get a bit of extra value from opponents saccing in 6 (7?) hearts - again helps to know them.
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Posted 2009-May-31, 13:49
athene, on May 31 2009, 09:49 AM, said:
I think it's very close between doubling and getting partner to pick a slam. Perhaps it depends exactly how often partner is likely to pull a double and/or how aggressive opponents are. We might also get a bit of extra value from opponents saccing in 6 (7?) hearts - again helps to know them.
Kokish would double I'm pretty sure.
When I first was given this problem I doubled. I think its very possible partner has 5♠'s and we aren't getting to spades unless we double. Certainly we'd double with Axx Ax AKQ QTxxx?
4N is my second choice.
I think forcing this hand to slam is playing partner for very specific cards, but thats me, and I recognize it could be very right.
I have no idea what was right at the table. This problem was passed around bewteen some (mostly) Canadian experts last week and the consensus was 4N.
Edit: whoa I just looked at the poll results. wtf...
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Posted 2009-May-31, 21:40
Interesting results so far. Two of the non-mostly Canucks to vote for 4NT were Passell and Mohan. Whaddathey know? O wait. Duncan Smith and yours truly were also 4NTers. 
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Posted 2009-May-31, 22:54
Who is yours truly?
and the result can be plotted on a graph.
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Posted 2009-May-31, 23:00
JLOL, on May 31 2009, 03:03 AM, said:
5H followed by 5N over 5S
Grand slam force in S?
This does not look like a good idea to me. 4NT for me.
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Posted 2009-May-31, 23:19
The_Hog, on Jun 1 2009, 12:00 AM, said:
JLOL, on May 31 2009, 03:03 AM, said:
5H followed by 5N over 5S
Grand slam force in S?
This does not look like a good idea to me. 4NT for me.
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