[kgr]

Scoring: IMP

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What do you open? How is vulnerability and level/agressiveness of your opps influencing your opening.

[hotShot]

The level of the TD does matter here. Since this hand barely fits the rule of 18 (10♠+2♣+ 6HCP = 18) I don't want to get a score correction because the TD feels that this hand is not strong enough for a strong 2 opening or not weak enough for a weak preemptive opening.

I would start with 1♠, with only 6 HCP in my hand there is not much risk that this will be passed. This is my only chance to find out something about partners minor suits holdings. A t/o / or neg. dbl from partner over LHO's ♥ bid would be encouraging. Depending on vuln. I have no problem to reenter the auction with 4-7♠ if necessary.

[helene_t]

4♠, not selling out to 5x. Good hand for namyats

[NickRW]

hotShot, on May 30 2009, 11:20 AM, said:

The level of the TD does matter here. Since this hand barely fits the rule of 18 (10♠+2♣+ 6HCP = 18) I don't want to get a score correction because the TD feels that this hand is not strong enough for a strong 2 opening or not weak enough for a weak preemptive opening.

I would start with 1♠, with only 6 HCP in my hand there is not much risk that this will be passed. This is my only chance to find out something about partners minor suits holdings. A t/o / or neg. dbl from partner over LHO's ♥ bid would be encouraging. Depending on vuln. I have no problem to reenter the auction with 4-7♠ if necessary.

If you're worried about what the TD will think, in EBU land you're on dodgy ground opening 1 without 8hcp. I thought (could be wrong) that was a restriction inherited from the WBF - so I imagine other jurisdictions are the same.

Of course, the wording of the restriction matters. In EBU land it says something to the effect that a partnership may not agree to open 1 with 7hcp or less. It doesn't actually say you can't do it without agreement.

IMO you would get away with a strong 2 if you're playing them - as this suit can't possibly take less than 8 tricks - but I am not sure that you'll learn very much from partner even with that - seems highly probable that LHO is about to do something whatever lower level opening we pick.

Tough hand to do the right thing - but then don't the legal people say something like "hard cases make bad law" or something.

Personally I fancy 5♠ and see where the chips will fall.

Nick

[mtvesuvius]

I'm between 4♠ and 1♠ or maybe 1♣ in precision... Depending on what system I'm playing, I may even open this a strong ♣ then accept partner's (hopefully) positive response, and Control Ask in Spades/Clubs/Diamonds from there, the only problem is that with 25 HCP, partner will leap to 7NT

1♠ seems somewhat pointless, since we won't be able to get a feel for the hand in time, so I think I'll try 4♠ although I could easily be convinced this is wrong.

[Flameous]

I'll try a specific ace ask. After 5♣, 5♦ and 2A I'll try 6♠. After 5♥ I'll try my luck in 5.

[hanp]

4S, will be unanimous.

[neilkaz]

4♠ for me is good enough. I may miss a slam, but PD isn't barred from looking for one with a good hand anyhow.

EDIT ..and not selling to 5 either. A specific ace 4NT is interesting but you may still be set in slam opposite two aces not containing ♣ or be unable to pick up the K♠ and when PD has only the ace♥ you've helped the opps lead to set 5♠.

[Phil]

4♠ is obvious as is taking the push to 5♠ IMO.

[JLOL]

LOL

[whereagles]

Phil, on May 30 2009, 06:40 PM, said:

4♠ is obvious as is taking the push to 5♠ IMO.

indeed. seems like the most sensible plan for the moment

[CSGibson]

4♠.

[the hog]

JLOL, on May 31 2009, 02:59 AM, said:

LOL

Now that is a really intelligent comment!

4S for me and one of the rare times i will bid 5S over an opp's 5 level bid.

[xcurt]

4♠, but the worries about the TD if you open 1♠ are silly. 10-shooters are really rare (you need to play as much as bridge as mtvesuvius to ever see one, I've played 3 boards my entire bridge career with a 10-shooter) so the idea than any "rules" might apply is risible.

[jdonn]

The_Hog, on May 30 2009, 07:37 PM, said:

JLOL, on May 31 2009, 02:59 AM, said:

LOL

Now that is a really intelligent comment!

LOL

[cherdanno]

I would bid 5♠. Yeah I know its in general not inconsistent to bid 4♠ and bid on to 5♠ over opponents 5-level contract - we might get to buy it in 4♠ after all. With this hand, that seems very unlikely though. We know at least one opponent is short in spades, probably both. We only have 6 hcp.

[kgr]

Thanks for the answers.
I also opened 4♠ (considering 5 and 6). I didn't expect this to be passed out, but maybe one of the opps will DBL and the other opp will not have a good bid and will pass the DBL. It was at the club, but I didn't know the opps...maybe they were not very good and will take the wrong decision over 4♠, so why 5?
bidding : 4♠-(DBL)-All pass.
LHO was strong. RHO had a void in ♠ and a 7-card ♦ and opps can make 5♦.
Partner had ♣AK.. and ♠Jx. 5♠X=
Not sure what the best opening was against strong opps. Probabbly they would not pass the DBL. So maybe it is best then to open 4♠ and bid 5♠ over 5♦...Maybe RHO wants to bid ♦'s twice and is it better to give him that possibility by opening 3♠?

[cyc0002002]

2c psycho

[Winstonm]

4-loser hand. I open 2C.

[dake50]

Do I have a self-sufficient/solid opener with side void? Try that.