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#1 User is offline   benlessard 

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Posted 2009-May-24, 07:09

R vs (W)

(1S)-----P-----(1Nt)--------???

void
AKJxx
QTxxxx
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1Nt is forcing.

Does it change something if a further 2NT is showing a 6-4 type of hand ?
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Posted 2009-May-24, 07:22

I think I'll just bid 2S now. Gets my hand off my chest straight away.
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Posted 2009-May-24, 07:22

Michaels' cuebid?! Seems obvious.
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Posted 2009-May-24, 07:29

Yep -- Michaels. Might later rebid 3/4/5 to show 5-6.
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Posted 2009-May-24, 07:29

2 wtp
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Posted 2009-May-24, 09:02

I predict whatever the OP did won the board.
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Posted 2009-May-24, 09:05

If only I had a bid to show 5-5 in hearts and a minor
... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
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Posted 2009-May-24, 10:44

Scoring: IMP


It was imps.

At one table they overcall 2D and East bid 2S in balancing. South double with 2 tricks hoping partner got nice trump stack -100

3D is going to be doubled for -200. 3Hx will be a disaster.

I believe that at these color a michael should be done only with a strong hand. IMO south hand qualify but has no extras and i think that 2D is probably ok too.
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Posted 2009-May-24, 11:59

2 would be my third choice.

I prefer showing the two suiter and just bidding the hearts to overcalling 2.
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Posted 2009-May-24, 12:05

Cascade, on May 24 2009, 09:59 AM, said:

2 would be my third choice.

I prefer showing the two suiter and just bidding the hearts to overcalling 2.

Seems rather likely if we bid 2, LHO is going to be declaring spades and partner leading a diamond. I think 2 might be my fourth choice, with pass as third.

But then again, I would not have the creativity to double them at IMPs at the two level hoping partner has four tricks and my two cash, so what do I know?
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Posted 2009-May-24, 12:20

Cascade, on May 24 2009, 12:59 PM, said:

2 would be my third choice.

I prefer showing the two suiter and just bidding the hearts to overcalling 2.

Likewise me.
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Posted 2009-May-24, 16:28

I agree that this is about a minimum Michaels, but it is a Michaels. 6-5 is worth appreciating.
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Posted 2009-May-24, 16:42

benlessard, on May 24 2009, 05:44 PM, said:

3D is going to be doubled for -200.

Are you sure it's going down?
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Posted 2009-May-24, 17:55

obv 2S
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Posted 2009-May-24, 18:06

gnasher, on May 24 2009, 05:42 PM, said:

benlessard, on May 24 2009, 05:44 PM, said:

3D is going to be doubled for -200.

Are you sure it's going down?

Yeah, it doesn't look like that bad of a contract. I mean, suppose you get a top spade lead. You ruff, cash two top heartys and see the Queen drop, and then ruff a heart, presumably with the forced King. A heart back may get an Ace hop, say, and another spade. So, you ruff again, cash the heart Queen, and then run hearts until RHO ruffs. It seems like you end up with nine tricks.

So, let's say they cash two clubs on opening lead and then lead a diamond to the Ace and back. Now, you lose only one diamond. Sure, you now lose a heart, but that's still nine tricks.

I suppose the trick is to not fall for the heart hook, but why would you?
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Posted 2009-May-24, 18:29

kenrexford, on May 24 2009, 07:06 PM, said:

gnasher, on May 24 2009, 05:42 PM, said:

benlessard, on May 24 2009, 05:44 PM, said:

3D is going to be doubled for -200.

Are you sure it's going down?

Yeah, it doesn't look like that bad of a contract. I mean, suppose you get a top spade lead. You ruff, cash two top heartys and see the Queen drop, and then ruff a heart, presumably with the forced King. A heart back may get an Ace hop, say, and another spade. So, you ruff again, cash the heart Queen, and then run hearts until RHO ruffs. It seems like you end up with nine tricks.

So, let's say they cash two clubs on opening lead and then lead a diamond to the Ace and back. Now, you lose only one diamond. Sure, you now lose a heart, but that's still nine tricks.

I suppose the trick is to not fall for the heart hook, but why would you?

I haven't analyzed it in details, but it seems that west should not ruff in on the 3rd round of hearts. Then east can give him a ruff later. Perhaps there is a counter to this, but it's too late here for me to think about that right now. ;)
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Posted 2009-May-24, 21:06

I tought the X of 2S in balancing was a real joke and deserve major punishement.
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For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
I happen to think it's a very noble way to meet one's maker, especially for a guy like him.
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Posted 2009-May-25, 02:53

MFA, on May 25 2009, 01:29 AM, said:

I haven't analyzed it in details, but it seems that west should not ruff in on the 3rd round of hearts. Then east can give him a ruff later. Perhaps there is a counter to this, but it's too late here for me to think about that right now. :)

I ruff low, ruff a spade, ruff a heart, ruff another spade, and lead a club in this position:

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So far I haven't lost any tricks, and I can't be prevented from scoring Q10.

I think the defence went wrong at trick one, when they led a top spade. They can afford to cash some clubs, but after that they have to play hearts. Not an easy defence to find.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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