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invite all sys to bid this hand 6 answers will reveal opps hands

#1 User is offline   pirate22 

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Posted 2009-May-18, 20:45

Non vul dealer N

North hand void--KQ964--K1082--J1043

Souths hand AKQJ5--J3 - AQ --A852

Bidding N--- E---S---W
P P 1sp? P
??? be my guest

after 6 inputs ill give what happened,and
opps hands BBo 18th played 24 times

regards
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Posted 2009-May-18, 21:53

2♥ 2NT
3NT Pass

2♥ 5-6 hearts 5-10 HCP

2NT inquiry

3NT Maximum with five hearts and not three spades

If north passed

Pass 2NT
3♦ 3♠
3NT Pass

2NT Good 20-22

3♦ five hearts

3♠ five spades and not three hearts
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Posted 2009-May-19, 01:05

pass 1♠
1 NT 3 ♣
3 NT ap

If you decide to open the south hand as a balanced hand, the bidding would be as in Waynes second example.
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Posted 2009-May-19, 02:09

We play a 2/1 system.

Pass - 1S
1NT (1) - 3C (2)
4C (3) - 4D (4)
4H (5) - 4NT (6)
5C (7) - Pass ((8) Edited, was 6C)

(1) 100% forcing, could be 4-7 with spade fit
(2) gf, 5-4
(3) natural, slam interest, we have a fit, partner wants to play
game vs. 4-7 with spade support, I have enough to make a
move toward slam, playing IMPs this is fairly easy, playing
MP, I still would bid 4C
(4) cue, showing either the king of the Ace
(5) cue 1st or 2nd round control, could be shortage or Kx
(6) RKCB
(7) 0 or 3

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PS: (8) Since the opener knowes, he is missing two KC, he will pass,
since slam is at bets 50%.
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Posted 2009-May-19, 02:42

Pass* - 1♠
2♦** - 3NT***
Pass

* In principle one could open 2♥, 9 - 12, but we don't do that on minimum 3-suiters
** Transfer to ♥
*** No slam opposite a passed hand without a good fit

6NT needs a ♣ lead to beat it. Not that you ever want to be in it...
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Posted 2009-May-19, 03:25

Codo's sequence is simple and effective. No need to muddy the waters :)
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  Posted 2009-May-19, 04:52

1♠覧2♥(passed)
3♣覧4♣
4♥ 覧4♠
5♦覧5♥
6♥
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Posted 2009-May-19, 05:30

zhams, on May 19 2009, 07:52 PM, said:

1♠覧2♥(passed)
3♣覧4♣
4♥ 覧4♠
5♦覧5♥
6♥

lol
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Posted 2009-May-19, 06:18

P-2♣
2NT(♥pos)-3♠
4♦-4♥
5♣-6♣

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Posted 2009-May-19, 07:17

Pass - 2♣
2NT* - 3♠
3NT - Pass

potentially:

1♥ - 1♠
2♦ - 3♣
3♦* - 3♥
4♣ - 4NT
5♣ - Pass

If we are playing 1430 then... :)

or if I was playing multi:

2♥ - 2NT
3♥* - 6♣ probably... :)
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Posted 2009-May-19, 09:51

1S in third seat, then 2C showing 5 hearts by north (See Justin's blog). South relays and places the contract in 3NT.
and the result can be plotted on a graph.
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Posted 2009-May-19, 10:27

P - 1♠
1NT - 2♣!
2♦! - 3♣
3NT - P

2♣ = Gazzilli (16+ any or <16HCP natural)
2♦ = 8+ any
3♣ denies 3♥

Alternative:
P - 1♠
2♥ - 2NT!
3♣! - 3♦!
3NT - 4♣
4NT - P

2NT = 16+ no shortness
3♣ = relay
3♦ = 5♠, 4m, 2-2
Responder shouldn't get excited imo. However, opener still has extra's to show. He can bid 4♣ or 4NT, but imo responder should still try to signoff in NT.
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Posted 2009-May-19, 16:43

Gerben42, on May 19 2009, 08:42 AM, said:

6NT needs a ♣ lead to beat it. Not that you ever want to be in it...

uh?, even if hearts broke, you happen to have no entry to dummy, you will need spades 4-4 as well. You can also set clubs 4-1 to make it cold :P


There are many ways I could start this hand.

2NT-3♦
3♠ (5♠-2♥)-3NT is one of them.
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  Posted 2009-May-19, 18:43

Pass - 1C (16+)
2C (8-9, 2+BCC, minor 3 suiter or D only) - 2D (relay)
2H (minor 3-suiter) - 2S (relay)
2NT (short S) - 3C (relay)
3NT (0-5-4-4 2 controls) - Pass

wtp? :P
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Posted 2009-May-19, 19:46

Thank you all for inputs-seems general 3n/t is optimum and 5 clubs an aside issue

I was interested in the primary "duty" of the passed hand when pard opens 1 spade
should it be ----1n/t or bid 2 hts our auction turned out very uncomfortable for both of us with the help of the opponents which backfired on them.comments thoughts at the side of auction

AUCTION N----- E -----S-----W
p p 1s p
1n/t! p 2cl p A & B a=Duty b=obliged

3n/t! p 4cl p C & D c=to play d=dont like 3n/t
5cl! p 5n/t p E & F e=OK u r 5/5/void f=Sign off?
6cl! p p X G & H g=is pard ace asking?whats going on 0 aces Double comes up ????? ( a wheel has fallen off)
P! p 6sp X I & J I =resisted 6 n/t feeling very uncomfortable
J= pard also uncomfortable went back to 6 spades---this was now x---Pass by me pard must be 6/6/1 and a void :P)))

opps hands WEST THE DOUBLER 7532--A108--954--K96
East 10986-742 --J763-Q7

opening lead 2 sp after the dust settled my pard went to work after 2 rounds sp plyd the j hts ducked another ht Game set and match up went the ace
My partners comment post mortem was he could not use gerber after 5cl so 5 n/t was a sign off???? you ncan see why i bid 6 clubs to the rescue unknown came west pard liked his spade suit and fled to 6 spades:))

we were the only one in 6 spades 1 pair in 6 n/t rest in 3n/t-4sp+2 and 4 hts+2
others in part scores and someone went off in 5 spades--Duty and disciplined bidding applies 3n/t is best contract regards put ones "rose" petal glasses away:)
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Posted 2009-May-19, 19:48

apologies for lay out must go to tutorial on the layouts
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Posted 2009-May-19, 19:52

This forum has very good tools for displaying bridge information. Your posts will be about 10x easier to read if you'd use them.
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Posted 2009-May-19, 21:55

I don't understand the system.

A jump to 3NT by the passed hand with a misfitting - I am assuming that clubs was not natural - 9 count?
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